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disclaimer: I work on openshift.io, and there will be much more coming out as summit goes on so I can't refer to more than in current news: From https://www.re

disclaimer: I work on openshift.io, and there will be much more coming out as summit goes on so I can't refer to more than in current news: From https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-unveils-end-end-cloud-native-development-environment-red-hat-openshiftio https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-unvei... Team Collaboration Agile Planning Developer Workspace Management Application Coding and Testing Runtime Stack Analysis Continuous Integration and Delivery thus it is more than "just" an online IDE in the traditional sense of an IDE, i.e. Eclipse Che is just one part of it. All of it running on and targeting OpenShift. Hope that helps.

tyingq 9y ago
Sure. I wasn't trying to minimize it by saying "online IDE". I was trying to say that the home page is pretty ambiguous. I needed help from HN'ers to tell what it even was. "OpenShift" already means something else to me. That list of features you just posted would be good to put on the home page.
- rch 9y ago
  I've read through most of it, and I think you're safe calling it a web-based IDE. Obviously "IDE" means more than it would have 15 years ago, but that's still what it is.
bdavisx 9y ago
So if a company chooses openshift.io, then I'm not going to be able to use IntelliJ, NetBeans, emacs, vim, visual studio code, etc. That'll help attract talent.
- op00to 9y ago
  Proof for your statement? This sounds like juicy, paranoia-mongering FUD.
  - bdavisx 9y ago
    Sorry, I didn't mean it to come off as a statement. It says that there's an online IDE, so it was a question; I unfortunately used a '.' to end the first sentence because I had an 'etc.' at the end. It's seriously a question; and if the answer is yes, then the following statement applies (the one about attracting talent). But yes, it came off pretty cynical and sarcastic, but if someone is going to try to force me to use a particular IDE, it would piss me off (and the thought of it did too).
    - op00to 9y ago
      If it works anything like OpenShift 3's on premise product, and I see nothing that says it doesn't, you can use whatever IDE you want, but the deeper you get into customization, the less "special sauce" you'll get. Maybe clippy won't pop up and say "hey, it looks like you're trying to use an out of date library!" if you're editing in vi and checking in with git or whatever.
- cpitman 9y ago
  I think you are jumping to conclusions here, OpenShift.io is committing to a git repository. I'm guessing you'll still be able to clone this repo locally and use your own tools.
  - deadmik3 9y ago
    Yeah, I don't see any reason why you'd be forced to use any particular IDE if you're using Git properly
- sbose78 9y ago
  You can use any IDE and also use every other component of OpenShift.IO ( like planner, build, pipelines )
btbytes 9y ago
I have an OpenShift account and now I'm shown an "additional action needed" page on login. When i complete it and hit submit, it tells me that email already exists. Not at all pleasant :(
- baijum 9y ago
  Sorry for the inconvenience! I have reported this issue here: https://github.com/openshiftio/openshift.io/issues/134 https://github.com/openshiftio/openshift.io/issues/134
- luciddreamz 9y ago
  I'll see if we can get a fix pushed out for this today/ASAP. The issue currently occurs when you have multiple Red Hat accounts that use the same email address (or a sub-addressed version of the same email address, like "chris@gmail.com" and "chris+123@gmail.com".
  - thanksgiving 9y ago
    > I'll see if we can get a fix pushed out for this today/ASAP. The issue currently occurs when you have multiple Red Hat accounts that use the same email address (or a sub-addressed version of the same email address, like "chris@gmail.com" and "chris+123@gmail.com". Is this a special case for Google mail or do you assume foo+bar@example.domain is the same as foo@example.domain ? Why?
    - luciddreamz 9y ago
      It's an abuse prevention mechanism. We do not permit users to have multiple OpenShift Online accounts. See 2.1 in the OpenShift Online terms of service: https://www.openshift.com/legal/terms.html https://www.openshift.com/legal/terms.html "You may not (or permit third parties to) create multiple accounts or otherwise access the Services in a manner that is intended to avoid Fees or to circumvent maximum capacity thresholds for the Services."
      - 9y ago
jankedeen 9y ago
This looks like a clusterf*ck.

tyingq 9y ago

Sure. I wasn't trying to minimize it by saying "online IDE". I was trying to say that the home page is pretty ambiguous. I needed help from HN'ers to tell what it even was. "OpenShift" already means something else to me. That list of features you just posted would be good to put on the home page.

rch 9y ago
I've read through most of it, and I think you're safe calling it a web-based IDE. Obviously "IDE" means more than it would have 15 years ago, but that's still what it is.

bdavisx 9y ago

So if a company chooses openshift.io, then I'm not going to be able to use IntelliJ, NetBeans, emacs, vim, visual studio code, etc. That'll help attract talent.

op00to 9y ago
Proof for your statement? This sounds like juicy, paranoia-mongering FUD.
- bdavisx 9y ago
  Sorry, I didn't mean it to come off as a statement. It says that there's an online IDE, so it was a question; I unfortunately used a '.' to end the first sentence because I had an 'etc.' at the end. It's seriously a question; and if the answer is yes, then the following statement applies (the one about attracting talent). But yes, it came off pretty cynical and sarcastic, but if someone is going to try to force me to use a particular IDE, it would piss me off (and the thought of it did too).
  - op00to 9y ago
    If it works anything like OpenShift 3's on premise product, and I see nothing that says it doesn't, you can use whatever IDE you want, but the deeper you get into customization, the less "special sauce" you'll get. Maybe clippy won't pop up and say "hey, it looks like you're trying to use an out of date library!" if you're editing in vi and checking in with git or whatever.
cpitman 9y ago
I think you are jumping to conclusions here, OpenShift.io is committing to a git repository. I'm guessing you'll still be able to clone this repo locally and use your own tools.
- deadmik3 9y ago
  Yeah, I don't see any reason why you'd be forced to use any particular IDE if you're using Git properly
sbose78 9y ago
You can use any IDE and also use every other component of OpenShift.IO ( like planner, build, pipelines )

btbytes 9y ago

I have an OpenShift account and now I'm shown an "additional action needed" page on login. When i complete it and hit submit, it tells me that email already exists. Not at all pleasant :(

baijum 9y ago
Sorry for the inconvenience! I have reported this issue here: https://github.com/openshiftio/openshift.io/issues/134 https://github.com/openshiftio/openshift.io/issues/134
luciddreamz 9y ago
I'll see if we can get a fix pushed out for this today/ASAP. The issue currently occurs when you have multiple Red Hat accounts that use the same email address (or a sub-addressed version of the same email address, like "chris@gmail.com" and "chris+123@gmail.com".
- thanksgiving 9y ago
  > I'll see if we can get a fix pushed out for this today/ASAP. The issue currently occurs when you have multiple Red Hat accounts that use the same email address (or a sub-addressed version of the same email address, like "chris@gmail.com" and "chris+123@gmail.com". Is this a special case for Google mail or do you assume foo+bar@example.domain is the same as foo@example.domain ? Why?
  - luciddreamz 9y ago
    It's an abuse prevention mechanism. We do not permit users to have multiple OpenShift Online accounts. See 2.1 in the OpenShift Online terms of service: https://www.openshift.com/legal/terms.html https://www.openshift.com/legal/terms.html "You may not (or permit third parties to) create multiple accounts or otherwise access the Services in a manner that is intended to avoid Fees or to circumvent maximum capacity thresholds for the Services."
    - 9y ago

jankedeen 9y ago

This looks like a clusterf*ck.