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Seems to me that as long as the number of users per license/copy stays the same AutoDesk shouldn't have a case. The person taking the loss is whoever sold the c

Seems to me that as long as the number of users per license/copy stays the same AutoDesk shouldn't have a case. The person taking the loss is whoever sold the copy for less than it's worth. Where I work expensive software like EE/CAD tools are either on a license server, node-locked or have a dongle. That makes things clean. The point about the academic discounts is a good one, though. Seems reasonable that those copies should not be resellable.

_delirium 16y ago
On the last point, is there a reason it should be different for software than books? Publishers can't put resale restrictions even on specially discounted books (e.g. professor-only copies of textbooks or something).
- zwieback 16y ago
  Only in so far that academically discounted copies of AutoCAD or PhotoShop are valued much higher by the general public than college textbooks. Probably the best solution would be to not allow any resale restrictions and change the academic software model to one where you can get a temporary license that expires after a year or something similar.
  - brudgers 16y ago
    The Academic Copies of AutoCad print watermarks when the drawings are plotted. If entities created in an academic version are brought into the database of an existing drawing, the watermark also prints. In otherwords, the market value of academic versions is limited (though this was not the case 20 years ago). In addition, Autodesk typically sells subscriptions to its academic software, not licenses. Their arguement, does not reflect the facts as one might say.
- dedward 16y ago
  No - but they could issue you a copy of a book with a negotiated agreement between the two of you that you would not copy and/or resell the book, and that it was for your use only - say to proofread a copy, or keep something secret. That can't happen simply by printing "not for resale" inside the book - but it can certainly happen during binding contract negotiation.
  - hga 16y ago
    Right, but in most of those cases wouldn't they be limited in only seeking a remedy with the party that violated the agreement? A Canadian exception to this was when a retail store sold some Harry Potter books ahead of the worldwide release time.
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_delirium 16y ago

On the last point, is there a reason it should be different for software than books? Publishers can't put resale restrictions even on specially discounted books (e.g. professor-only copies of textbooks or something).

zwieback 16y ago
Only in so far that academically discounted copies of AutoCAD or PhotoShop are valued much higher by the general public than college textbooks. Probably the best solution would be to not allow any resale restrictions and change the academic software model to one where you can get a temporary license that expires after a year or something similar.
- brudgers 16y ago
  The Academic Copies of AutoCad print watermarks when the drawings are plotted. If entities created in an academic version are brought into the database of an existing drawing, the watermark also prints. In otherwords, the market value of academic versions is limited (though this was not the case 20 years ago). In addition, Autodesk typically sells subscriptions to its academic software, not licenses. Their arguement, does not reflect the facts as one might say.
dedward 16y ago
No - but they could issue you a copy of a book with a negotiated agreement between the two of you that you would not copy and/or resell the book, and that it was for your use only - say to proofread a copy, or keep something secret. That can't happen simply by printing "not for resale" inside the book - but it can certainly happen during binding contract negotiation.
- hga 16y ago
  Right, but in most of those cases wouldn't they be limited in only seeking a remedy with the party that violated the agreement? A Canadian exception to this was when a retail store sold some Harry Potter books ahead of the worldwide release time.

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