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> What voltage are talking about? I am pretty sure I've fried PSUs with 110V rather than 220V, in a 220V grid. Haven't tried this on newer PSUs. > This will c

> What voltage are talking about? I am pretty sure I've fried PSUs with 110V rather than 220V, in a 220V grid. Haven't tried this on newer PSUs. > This will cost you a single roundtrip to the store to replace with a beefier one. What if that store is an online store? what if you actually imported your parts from abroad? What if there is a no refund policy? > Most stores have “configurators” (on their web sites) that show only compatible parts If someone is filtering using the wrong criteria, e.g: price, can end up selecting wrong parts. It's possible if you are not familiar with this. > Never ever had a part died due to static. Before assembling touch the metal case of your new PC, that is usually enough to discharge. Yes. But you do this exactly because it's possible. It's easy to prevent, but first you need to be aware of it. > Nowadays thermal interface is pre-applied for you. And the fan is already screwed to radiator. Some fans/heatsinks include a pad of thermal paste, some others will require you to apply the paste. The CPU fan/heatsink is hard to connect wrong, but installing extractors in your case need you to be aware of where the air is flowing. It's not impossible to attach an extractor flipped to the other side. - Then after you are done with all the hardware, there comes the software, and getting everything installed correctly with the right drivers can also be challenging for some. And yes, all issues are preventable, and a lot of it is "connecting stuff where it fits", and with a short intro and common sense it can be easy to assemble a machine. My point was that there are still details you need to be aware of. And there's a non-zero risk you need to be aware of. Many people require help to install a printer, let alone assembling a machine.

floatboth 9y ago
> Haven't tried this on newer PSUs. Yep, I haven't seen a PSU that's not universal (100-240 V) in ages. > What if that store is an online store? what if you actually imported your parts from abroad? What if there is a no refund policy? Don't import PSUs from abroad? If it's no refund you can sell it to someone or use to build a second, less powerful computer, etc. > If someone is filtering using the wrong criteria, e.g: price, can end up selecting wrong parts. PC Part Picker literally excludes incompatible components with each component selection! That's the whole point. > Many people require help to install a printer, let alone assembling a machine. This thread is called "Ryzen for Programmers"… key word "programmers" :)
- partycoder 9y ago
  Programmers don't necessarily have to know how to handle hardware physically (it's a nice to have skill, but not strictly necessary). You can do really well just using laptops and the cloud. Many people will never have the need to build their own computer in this generation. Then, for some users, specs are not everything since sometimes you can just deploy stuff to a high spec instance on the cloud (for a cost, yes. but you can dispose it after you are done). Sometimes mobility, battery life, durability, a nice keyboard, and something that doesn't overheat on your lap are more important. You cannot bring your desktop computer to a coffee shop. Then, if it's the IDE speed... you can always tune your IDE. IntelliJ, the IDE used in the article: make sure you have the right JVM, tune the JVM settings, disable features you don't need, break down your project into smaller projects if it's too large, and temporarily exclude files that don't need to be indexed... While it is more cost-efficient and powerful, the sound of whirling fans is not for everyone. I used to build computers with up to 10 different fans in them, it sounded like an airplane when you turned it on. I am sure my wife would be very irritated by it. The solution to that is to use water cooling or something like that, but chances are you are just using fans.
  - floatboth 9y ago
    > Programmers don't necessarily have to know how to handle hardware physically Sure, but they usually can learn it extremely quickly :) > I used to build computers with up to 10 different fans in them, it sounded like an airplane when you turned it on That's weird, because if you have more fans, each one can spin slower. Did you just leave them all at 100% without any software control? My tower is extremely quiet at idle, slightly louder at 100% CPU, and only actually loud at 100% GPU. (The GPU is heavily overclocked which requires more cooling from the case fans. If I ever want it to be quiet while gaming I can just lower the GPU clock and voltage. But I prefer more frames per second, I use headphones anyway :D) > You cannot bring your desktop computer to a coffee shop That's why I also have a small Thinkpad. Compiling FreeBSD on it takes like a day, compared to less than 30 minutes on my desktop. Yeah sure the "cloud" is there but it's not for everyone. I like having actual powerful hardware.
    - 9y ago

floatboth 9y ago

> Haven't tried this on newer PSUs. Yep, I haven't seen a PSU that's not universal (100-240 V) in ages. > What if that store is an online store? what if you actually imported your parts from abroad? What if there is a no refund policy? Don't import PSUs from abroad? If it's no refund you can sell it to someone or use to build a second, less powerful computer, etc. > If someone is filtering using the wrong criteria, e.g: price, can end up selecting wrong parts. PC Part Picker literally excludes incompatible components with each component selection! That's the whole point. > Many people require help to install a printer, let alone assembling a machine. This thread is called "Ryzen for Programmers"… key word "programmers" :)

partycoder 9y ago
Programmers don't necessarily have to know how to handle hardware physically (it's a nice to have skill, but not strictly necessary). You can do really well just using laptops and the cloud. Many people will never have the need to build their own computer in this generation. Then, for some users, specs are not everything since sometimes you can just deploy stuff to a high spec instance on the cloud (for a cost, yes. but you can dispose it after you are done). Sometimes mobility, battery life, durability, a nice keyboard, and something that doesn't overheat on your lap are more important. You cannot bring your desktop computer to a coffee shop. Then, if it's the IDE speed... you can always tune your IDE. IntelliJ, the IDE used in the article: make sure you have the right JVM, tune the JVM settings, disable features you don't need, break down your project into smaller projects if it's too large, and temporarily exclude files that don't need to be indexed... While it is more cost-efficient and powerful, the sound of whirling fans is not for everyone. I used to build computers with up to 10 different fans in them, it sounded like an airplane when you turned it on. I am sure my wife would be very irritated by it. The solution to that is to use water cooling or something like that, but chances are you are just using fans.
- floatboth 9y ago
  > Programmers don't necessarily have to know how to handle hardware physically Sure, but they usually can learn it extremely quickly :) > I used to build computers with up to 10 different fans in them, it sounded like an airplane when you turned it on That's weird, because if you have more fans, each one can spin slower. Did you just leave them all at 100% without any software control? My tower is extremely quiet at idle, slightly louder at 100% CPU, and only actually loud at 100% GPU. (The GPU is heavily overclocked which requires more cooling from the case fans. If I ever want it to be quiet while gaming I can just lower the GPU clock and voltage. But I prefer more frames per second, I use headphones anyway :D) > You cannot bring your desktop computer to a coffee shop That's why I also have a small Thinkpad. Compiling FreeBSD on it takes like a day, compared to less than 30 minutes on my desktop. Yeah sure the "cloud" is there but it's not for everyone. I like having actual powerful hardware.
  - 9y ago