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So true. Also don't forget how many people actually major in information sytems in college. The whole industry is self perpetuated by overly complicated softwar

by fjabre 16y ago

So true. Also don't forget how many people actually major in information sytems in college. The whole industry is self perpetuated by overly complicated software. The more complicated the more they can milk their clients.. Such a waste.. Although I suppose in the current environment it's better to have these guys employed instead of looking for jobs.

jasonlbaptiste 16y ago
Ha, I've renamed my degree in computer information systems to a degree in: How Not To Build Software.
jcromartie 16y ago
Every single Information Systems graduate that I've met has made a horrible horrible mess of every piece of code they touch. I hate to stereotype, but when it's all you have to go off of, it's all you can do.
- jasonlbaptiste 16y ago
  The capstone project for my class had a teacher that required we used Blackboard as a code repository system instead of me setting up Github or beanstalk. She also asked that we use stored procedures for MySQL, which no one was familiar with and would take way longer. The code was horrible, the design was ugly, and half the class was spent designing by committee. It was all for an app that should have taken a couple of weeks to build (it tracked absences for the school of business).
  - jcromartie 16y ago
    That's really amazing. What was her title? Was this supposed to be a programming professor? How can anybody who purports to be teaching the practicalities of software construction require you to use the wrong tool? Blackboard has terrible handling of file uploads... as of fairly recently two users couldn't two different files with the same name.
    - jwhitlark 16y ago
      Heh, I had a CS Professor once refer to the command line as "a legacy technology that's still occasionally useful for testing." I didn't tell her that saying that at a hiring interview at my company would end the interview.
      - _delirium 16y ago
        I've had more the opposite experience--- one CS professor used only a Unix command line without X installed, and his machine didn't have a mouse. Not sure which is worse.
        desigooner 16y ago
        i can relate to that .. not only did my professor use command line only, he required the finals (more like a paper) and the project reports typed up in LaTex + the presentations in .PS/PDF format .. No Word or Powerpoint
        Quiark 16y ago
        Isn't that actually a good thing? :)
        jodrellblank 16y ago
        In the same way that forcing people to code everything in assembler or C instead of Ruby or Python out of some religious ideology is a good thing. Word produces acceptably formatted acceptably cross platform documents with low effort and a PDF export option for the last three years too.

by fjabre 16y ago

jasonlbaptiste 16y ago

Ha, I've renamed my degree in computer information systems to a degree in: How Not To Build Software.

jcromartie 16y ago

Every single Information Systems graduate that I've met has made a horrible horrible mess of every piece of code they touch. I hate to stereotype, but when it's all you have to go off of, it's all you can do.

jasonlbaptiste 16y ago
The capstone project for my class had a teacher that required we used Blackboard as a code repository system instead of me setting up Github or beanstalk. She also asked that we use stored procedures for MySQL, which no one was familiar with and would take way longer. The code was horrible, the design was ugly, and half the class was spent designing by committee. It was all for an app that should have taken a couple of weeks to build (it tracked absences for the school of business).
- jcromartie 16y ago
  That's really amazing. What was her title? Was this supposed to be a programming professor? How can anybody who purports to be teaching the practicalities of software construction require you to use the wrong tool? Blackboard has terrible handling of file uploads... as of fairly recently two users couldn't two different files with the same name.
  - jwhitlark 16y ago
    Heh, I had a CS Professor once refer to the command line as "a legacy technology that's still occasionally useful for testing." I didn't tell her that saying that at a hiring interview at my company would end the interview.
    - _delirium 16y ago
      I've had more the opposite experience--- one CS professor used only a Unix command line without X installed, and his machine didn't have a mouse. Not sure which is worse.
      - desigooner 16y ago
        i can relate to that .. not only did my professor use command line only, he required the finals (more like a paper) and the project reports typed up in LaTex + the presentations in .PS/PDF format .. No Word or Powerpoint
        Quiark 16y ago
        Isn't that actually a good thing? :)
        jodrellblank 16y ago
        In the same way that forcing people to code everything in assembler or C instead of Ruby or Python out of some religious ideology is a good thing. Word produces acceptably formatted acceptably cross platform documents with low effort and a PDF export option for the last three years too.