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> If the OS and apps you needed to run required 4MB RAM, then you really should have at least 4MB RAM. [...] Set your VM page size to only 1MB more than your ph

> If the OS and apps you needed to run required 4MB RAM, then you really should have at least 4MB RAM. [...] Set your VM page size to only 1MB more than your physical memory size. ahhh... I'm fond the days from when you could run whole applications in all of 4MiB -- GUIs included.

dreamcompiler 10y ago
Yeah. I had a colleague who used Photoshop a lot. She got management to spring for 30MB of RAM for her machine. I thought that was the most outrageous thing I'd ever heard.
- yuhong 10y ago
  I wonder which year was that.
  - dreamcompiler 10y ago
    Probably around 1991.
- astrodust 10y ago
  Designers that did print-quality photography, especially posters, have always been crying out for more memory. In the G3 and G4 days with easy-open computers it wasn't uncommon for one designer to put out a call for more memory to do something intensive, like edit a poster, and other designers would sacrifice a stick or two to the cause. When the job was done they'd put the memory back in the other machines.
  - simonh 10y ago
    Rathole alert, but I worked at a Forestrey Commission Research Station here in the UK in the 90s. One of the mathematicians was running an environmental model on a Sun workstation and it was running out of RAM and swapping and was going to take 2 days to run at that rate. The department had another identical workstation that wasnt being used just then and I pointed out I could swap half of it's RAM to his machine for the day. He and his boss looked at me as though I was insane. An hour later they called me and asked me to do it, the model run completed in a couple of hours and I swapped the RAM back.
- jamesfmilne 10y ago
  My father used to run a desktop publishing bureau that output people's print jobs onto film, which was then sent to printing presses for printing. This was for magazines, artwork for packaging, etc. He had a Quadra 950 with 128MB of RAM, which required some pretty exotic SIMMs. That would be a pretty expensive machine in today's money. This was for handling Adobe Illustrator files with large embedded images.
  - yuhong 10y ago
    Ah, 16MB 30-pin SIMMs. One of the reasons they were not popular was that the first 16Mbit chips was 400 mil, making them pretty tall
pjmlp 10y ago
I remember when you could do that with 512 - 640 KB, using DESQview, ViewMAX or Turbo Vision based applications on MS-DOS, or my beloved Amiga 500. So just imagine the possibilities for ESP32 applications.
huxley 10y ago
I blew a thousand dollars (Canadian) to upgrade my new Mac Plus to 4 megabytes and the sales guy asked --slightly tongue in cheek but only slightly-- if I was doing CAD for NASA.
- t0mek 10y ago
  I extended memory in my Mac Plus to 4MB for about $5 a few months ago. Nowadays, when anything marked with the "retrocomputing" label can be ridiculously expensive, this kind of 30-pin SIMM memory is still considered as obsolete, not classic.
- yuhong 10y ago
  In what year? The DRAM market changed between 1987, 1988, and 1989, for example.
- yuhong 10y ago
  Anyone BTW remember the thick 1MB SIMMs based on DIP chips that was common before DRAM prices declined in 1989?

dreamcompiler 10y ago

Yeah. I had a colleague who used Photoshop a lot. She got management to spring for 30MB of RAM for her machine. I thought that was the most outrageous thing I'd ever heard.

yuhong 10y ago
I wonder which year was that.
- dreamcompiler 10y ago
  Probably around 1991.
astrodust 10y ago
Designers that did print-quality photography, especially posters, have always been crying out for more memory. In the G3 and G4 days with easy-open computers it wasn't uncommon for one designer to put out a call for more memory to do something intensive, like edit a poster, and other designers would sacrifice a stick or two to the cause. When the job was done they'd put the memory back in the other machines.
- simonh 10y ago
  Rathole alert, but I worked at a Forestrey Commission Research Station here in the UK in the 90s. One of the mathematicians was running an environmental model on a Sun workstation and it was running out of RAM and swapping and was going to take 2 days to run at that rate. The department had another identical workstation that wasnt being used just then and I pointed out I could swap half of it's RAM to his machine for the day. He and his boss looked at me as though I was insane. An hour later they called me and asked me to do it, the model run completed in a couple of hours and I swapped the RAM back.
jamesfmilne 10y ago
My father used to run a desktop publishing bureau that output people's print jobs onto film, which was then sent to printing presses for printing. This was for magazines, artwork for packaging, etc. He had a Quadra 950 with 128MB of RAM, which required some pretty exotic SIMMs. That would be a pretty expensive machine in today's money. This was for handling Adobe Illustrator files with large embedded images.
- yuhong 10y ago
  Ah, 16MB 30-pin SIMMs. One of the reasons they were not popular was that the first 16Mbit chips was 400 mil, making them pretty tall

pjmlp 10y ago

I remember when you could do that with 512 - 640 KB, using DESQview, ViewMAX or Turbo Vision based applications on MS-DOS, or my beloved Amiga 500. So just imagine the possibilities for ESP32 applications.

huxley 10y ago

I blew a thousand dollars (Canadian) to upgrade my new Mac Plus to 4 megabytes and the sales guy asked --slightly tongue in cheek but only slightly-- if I was doing CAD for NASA.

t0mek 10y ago
I extended memory in my Mac Plus to 4MB for about $5 a few months ago. Nowadays, when anything marked with the "retrocomputing" label can be ridiculously expensive, this kind of 30-pin SIMM memory is still considered as obsolete, not classic.
yuhong 10y ago
In what year? The DRAM market changed between 1987, 1988, and 1989, for example.
yuhong 10y ago
Anyone BTW remember the thick 1MB SIMMs based on DIP chips that was common before DRAM prices declined in 1989?