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> Citizenship is a job requirement. You're violating federal labor law. Specifically, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. § 1324b. "Employers

> Citizenship is a job requirement. You're violating federal labor law. Specifically, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. § 1324b. "Employers may not treat individuals differently based on citizenship or immigration status. U.S. citizens, recent permanent residents, temporary residents, asylees and refugees are protected from citizenship status discrimination." Friendly intro: https://www.justice.gov/crt/types-discrimination https://www.justice.gov/crt/types-discrimination If anyone applies for this job and is denied based on citizenship status, here's where to file a charge: https://www.justice.gov/crt/filing-charge https://www.justice.gov/crt/filing-charge

TheOsiris 9y ago
it could be that the job needs a security clearance, which effectively makes citizenship a requirement
jauer 9y ago
Based on the locations + description I suspect this is for Military/IC-related jobs. Those tend to require citizenship...
souprock 9y ago
Nope. We qualify for an exemption and in fact are required to require citizenship. You can "file a charge" and have about the same luck you'd get over being declined a job working on orbital rockets, stealth fighters, nukes, submarine propellers, etc. Even HN darling SpaceX requires US citizenship. The fact that the USA has a law which ensures easy foreign access to American trade secrets is... exactly backwards. In any case, it doesn't apply.
- kelseyfrancis 9y ago
  For almost all jobs at SpaceX, only permanent residency (i.e., a green card) is required, because that's what ITAR and EAR require. But, yes, of course companies have no choice but to exclude non-citizens from jobs that require a security clearance, because getting a clearance requires citizenship.
DrPizza 9y ago
Good luck with that. It's working for Raytheon with a clearance. > (C) discrimination because of citizenship status which is otherwise required in order to comply with law, regulation, or executive order, or required by Federal, State, or local government contract, or which the Attorney General determines to be essential for an employer to do business with an agency or department of the Federal, State, or local government.
reek 9y ago
Perhaps you should understand the law before you post snarky comments accusing people of breaking the law. Here are the relevant exceptions to the law, from the source: "(A) a person or other entity that employs three or fewer employees, (B) a person’s or entity’s discrimination because of an individual’s national origin if the discrimination with respect to that person or entity and that individual is covered under section 703 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 [42 U.S.C. 2000e–2], or (C) discrimination because of citizenship status which is otherwise required in order to comply with law, regulation, or executive order, or required by Federal, State, or local government contract, or which the Attorney General determines to be essential for an employer to do business with an agency or department of the Federal, State, or local government." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324b https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324b

TheOsiris 9y ago

it could be that the job needs a security clearance, which effectively makes citizenship a requirement

jauer 9y ago

Based on the locations + description I suspect this is for Military/IC-related jobs. Those tend to require citizenship...

souprock 9y ago

Nope. We qualify for an exemption and in fact are required to require citizenship. You can "file a charge" and have about the same luck you'd get over being declined a job working on orbital rockets, stealth fighters, nukes, submarine propellers, etc. Even HN darling SpaceX requires US citizenship. The fact that the USA has a law which ensures easy foreign access to American trade secrets is... exactly backwards. In any case, it doesn't apply.

kelseyfrancis 9y ago
For almost all jobs at SpaceX, only permanent residency (i.e., a green card) is required, because that's what ITAR and EAR require. But, yes, of course companies have no choice but to exclude non-citizens from jobs that require a security clearance, because getting a clearance requires citizenship.

DrPizza 9y ago

Good luck with that. It's working for Raytheon with a clearance. > (C) discrimination because of citizenship status which is otherwise required in order to comply with law, regulation, or executive order, or required by Federal, State, or local government contract, or which the Attorney General determines to be essential for an employer to do business with an agency or department of the Federal, State, or local government.

reek 9y ago

Perhaps you should understand the law before you post snarky comments accusing people of breaking the law. Here are the relevant exceptions to the law, from the source: "(A) a person or other entity that employs three or fewer employees, (B) a person’s or entity’s discrimination because of an individual’s national origin if the discrimination with respect to that person or entity and that individual is covered under section 703 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 [42 U.S.C. 2000e–2], or (C) discrimination because of citizenship status which is otherwise required in order to comply with law, regulation, or executive order, or required by Federal, State, or local government contract, or which the Attorney General determines to be essential for an employer to do business with an agency or department of the Federal, State, or local government." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324b https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324b