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Homebrew also just started publishing their stats: https://brew.sh/analytics/ https://brew.sh/analytics/ Neovim is about as popular as emacs now (backhanded c

Homebrew also just started publishing their stats: https://brew.sh/analytics/ https://brew.sh/analytics/ Neovim is about as popular as emacs now (backhanded compliment?). We just released Neovim 0.2 (now supports Windows) a few minutes ago, so it's funny to see Homebrew and LuaJit releases on HN now.

coolsunglasses 9y ago
>Neovim is about as popular as emacs now (backhanded compliment?). I'm primarily an Emacs user. The homebrew provided one kinda annoying. https://emacsformacosx.com/ https://emacsformacosx.com/ is better. If you serve bad ice cream but decent hot dogs and your hot dog sales numbers are higher than ice cream's, you can't generalize that to "people like hot dogs better than ice cream."
- justinmk 9y ago
  Sure. Let me know if you find a reliable source of data. Our ice cream is great though.
- Watabou 9y ago
  I'm curious. The homebrew formula seems to just download emacs from the main GNU repository. So what makes emacsformacosx better? The website doesn't seem to explain this.
  - grawlinson 9y ago
    If I remember correctly, one of the developers of GNU Emacs removed Mac-specific functionality as GNU doesn't want these type of patches in the software that they release as it goes against their core ethos.
    - sigjuice 9y ago
      Is there more information on this? Perhaps a mailing list thread or a Git commit?
      - fleg 9y ago
        There was this situation when on MacOSX emojis were colored, what was not the case on Linux, so it was disabled on MacOSX. https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/emacs-25.1/etc/NEWS#L1723 https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/emacs-25.1/etc/NE...
    - deleted 9y ago
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  - 100k 9y ago
    One thing it gives you out of the box that is difficult with the other Homebrew options (there is also https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/overview https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/overview) is a standard macOS application that you can launch with Spotlight.
- Zarel 9y ago
  macOS also comes with emacs preinstalled. It's probable that fewer people install from Homebrew because they already have it.
  - deathanatos 9y ago
    OS X also ships with a vim installation that can't access the system clipboard (I mean specifically "+; needing to type :set paste ⌘V :set nopaste is a PITA). This annoys me quite often. (And replacing the built-in vim, if you also want to have mvim, requires passing special flags to mvim that require you to have an Apple account.)
  - deathanatos 9y ago
    OS X also ships with a vim installation that can't access the system clipboard (I mean specifically "+; needing to type :set paste ⌘V :set nopaste is a PITA). This annoys me quite often. (And replacing the built-in vim, if you also want to have mvim, requires passing special flags to mvim that require you to have an Apple account.)
  - soraminazuki 9y ago
    The preinstalled version is so ancient that most people would just install a newer version.
- bdd 9y ago
  "brew cask install emacs" will install emacsformacosx.com build. % EDITOR='grep url' brew cask edit emacs | tail url "https://emacsformacosx.com/emacs-builds/Emacs-#{version}-universal.dmg"
  - joshka 9y ago
    This is one of those packages that has both a formula and a cask. Some people may not be aware of both. I'm curious about the EDITOR=... though rather than: brew cask cat emacs|grep url
rosalinekarr 9y ago
This is awesome. I've been wanting something like a "brew browse" command for a long time to see what popular tools I should consider trying out. I'm probably going to spend the rest of the night googling everything I don't recognize on the most installed list. Anyone have any suggestions for things to look at first?
- jph 9y ago
  Yes, here are suggestions in my annotated Brewfile: https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/Brewfile https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/Brewfile
  - gknoy 9y ago
    That's awesome, thank you!
mundanevoice 9y ago
and Vim is way ahead of both of them :D

coolsunglasses 9y ago

>Neovim is about as popular as emacs now (backhanded compliment?). I'm primarily an Emacs user. The homebrew provided one kinda annoying. https://emacsformacosx.com/ https://emacsformacosx.com/ is better. If you serve bad ice cream but decent hot dogs and your hot dog sales numbers are higher than ice cream's, you can't generalize that to "people like hot dogs better than ice cream."

justinmk 9y ago
Sure. Let me know if you find a reliable source of data. Our ice cream is great though.
Watabou 9y ago
I'm curious. The homebrew formula seems to just download emacs from the main GNU repository. So what makes emacsformacosx better? The website doesn't seem to explain this.
- grawlinson 9y ago
  If I remember correctly, one of the developers of GNU Emacs removed Mac-specific functionality as GNU doesn't want these type of patches in the software that they release as it goes against their core ethos.
  - sigjuice 9y ago
    Is there more information on this? Perhaps a mailing list thread or a Git commit?
    - fleg 9y ago
      There was this situation when on MacOSX emojis were colored, what was not the case on Linux, so it was disabled on MacOSX. https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/emacs-25.1/etc/NEWS#L1723 https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/emacs-25.1/etc/NE...
  - deleted 9y ago
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- 100k 9y ago
  One thing it gives you out of the box that is difficult with the other Homebrew options (there is also https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/overview https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/overview) is a standard macOS application that you can launch with Spotlight.
Zarel 9y ago
macOS also comes with emacs preinstalled. It's probable that fewer people install from Homebrew because they already have it.
- deathanatos 9y ago
  OS X also ships with a vim installation that can't access the system clipboard (I mean specifically "+; needing to type :set paste ⌘V :set nopaste is a PITA). This annoys me quite often. (And replacing the built-in vim, if you also want to have mvim, requires passing special flags to mvim that require you to have an Apple account.)
- deathanatos 9y ago
  OS X also ships with a vim installation that can't access the system clipboard (I mean specifically "+; needing to type :set paste ⌘V :set nopaste is a PITA). This annoys me quite often. (And replacing the built-in vim, if you also want to have mvim, requires passing special flags to mvim that require you to have an Apple account.)
- soraminazuki 9y ago
  The preinstalled version is so ancient that most people would just install a newer version.
bdd 9y ago
"brew cask install emacs" will install emacsformacosx.com build. % EDITOR='grep url' brew cask edit emacs | tail url "https://emacsformacosx.com/emacs-builds/Emacs-#{version}-universal.dmg"
- joshka 9y ago
  This is one of those packages that has both a formula and a cask. Some people may not be aware of both. I'm curious about the EDITOR=... though rather than: brew cask cat emacs|grep url

rosalinekarr 9y ago

This is awesome. I've been wanting something like a "brew browse" command for a long time to see what popular tools I should consider trying out. I'm probably going to spend the rest of the night googling everything I don't recognize on the most installed list. Anyone have any suggestions for things to look at first?

jph 9y ago
Yes, here are suggestions in my annotated Brewfile: https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/Brewfile https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/Brewfile
- gknoy 9y ago
  That's awesome, thank you!

mundanevoice 9y ago

and Vim is way ahead of both of them :D