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Sure, PNG instantly took over as the lossless non-animated format, but Animated PNG is still not widely supported (Firefox only IIRC?) Mostly the "auto-playing

Sure, PNG instantly took over as the lossless non-animated format, but Animated PNG is still not widely supported (Firefox only IIRC?) Mostly the "auto-playing animations without audio" stuff is moving to videos, e.g. https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/07/autoplay https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/07/autoplay

svieira 9y ago
Chrome too, as of Chrome 59 (currently in Beta): https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6691520493125632 https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6691520493125632 and Safari: http://caniuse.com/#feat=apng http://caniuse.com/#feat=apng
- floatboth 9y ago
  LOL, it was supported in the old Presto-based Operas as well :D One of the few "green to red" entries on caniuse
developer2 9y ago
Wow. I remember the initial hype for animated PNGs, meant to replace animated GIFs. We all expected it to happen in a matter of a few months, and that must have been nearly a decade ago now? It took 2-3 years before I simply gave up on checking to see if support had rolled out. To this day I have never seen an animated PNG in action. Animated GIFs continue to reign as king. Image hosts' demand to reduce outbound bandwidth costs finally culminated in the .gifv "format". IIRC it's nothing more than a WebM or MP4 video without an audio track, targeted at the html5 <video> element. What is the real reason why animated PNG was not rolled out years ago when we were all eagerly awaiting its arrival? Was the process encumbered for legal reasons, or was it simply not prioritized as an easily checked off box by the major players (ie: browsers)?
- floatboth 9y ago
  APNG was invented by Mozilla and not standardized with a "legit" organization (IETF/W3C). I guess Chrome/Safari/IE were reluctant to adopt a not-really-standard. Safari eventually did though, and now finally it's in Chrome beta. Yeah "gifv" is what I mentioned, and it's the way forward. The bandwidth used by GIFs made from movie clips is ridiculous! APNG wouldn't be that much better since it's also lossless. But APNG will be nice for animations that have to be lossless.
lloeki 9y ago
APNG works fine here on Safari, and it seems to be supported by everyone but IE/Edge and (strangely) the new Opera w/ Blink, but that may be because Chrome apparently added support starting with 59 in March? Easy test: do you see the ball bouncing here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

svieira 9y ago

Chrome too, as of Chrome 59 (currently in Beta): https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6691520493125632 https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6691520493125632 and Safari: http://caniuse.com/#feat=apng http://caniuse.com/#feat=apng

floatboth 9y ago
LOL, it was supported in the old Presto-based Operas as well :D One of the few "green to red" entries on caniuse

developer2 9y ago

Wow. I remember the initial hype for animated PNGs, meant to replace animated GIFs. We all expected it to happen in a matter of a few months, and that must have been nearly a decade ago now? It took 2-3 years before I simply gave up on checking to see if support had rolled out. To this day I have never seen an animated PNG in action. Animated GIFs continue to reign as king. Image hosts' demand to reduce outbound bandwidth costs finally culminated in the .gifv "format". IIRC it's nothing more than a WebM or MP4 video without an audio track, targeted at the html5 <video> element. What is the real reason why animated PNG was not rolled out years ago when we were all eagerly awaiting its arrival? Was the process encumbered for legal reasons, or was it simply not prioritized as an easily checked off box by the major players (ie: browsers)?

floatboth 9y ago
APNG was invented by Mozilla and not standardized with a "legit" organization (IETF/W3C). I guess Chrome/Safari/IE were reluctant to adopt a not-really-standard. Safari eventually did though, and now finally it's in Chrome beta. Yeah "gifv" is what I mentioned, and it's the way forward. The bandwidth used by GIFs made from movie clips is ridiculous! APNG wouldn't be that much better since it's also lossless. But APNG will be nice for animations that have to be lossless.

lloeki 9y ago

APNG works fine here on Safari, and it seems to be supported by everyone but IE/Edge and (strangely) the new Opera w/ Blink, but that may be because Chrome apparently added support starting with 59 in March? Easy test: do you see the ball bouncing here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG