no real negatives there... I'll fix that. Immutable-by-default and lazy-by-default made simple tasks awkward, its macro system is like CL's but gets in your way

no real negatives there... I'll fix that. Immutable-by-default and lazy-by-default made simple tasks awkward, its macro system is like CL's but gets in your way a little more, and because it's java it takes forever to start.