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Agreed. Atrocious name. Same with Mozilla's "Rust". Great language, terrible name.

by macspoofing 10y ago

adrift 10y ago
What's wrong with it?
- SilasX 10y ago
  Are you asking about rust? Not the parent but: Because the term has universally negative connotations: I don't like equipment that's rusted. I don't like when joints have rusted into position. I don't like getting rusty at skills. I don't like rusty pipes or rust getting into drinking water. I don't like turning on a faucet and seeing the color of rust come out. I know it's not 100% rational, but the feeling of revulsion nudged me away from learning about it until much later. It also invites easy puns about a system that runs "like it has a lot of rust in it" (already seen it happen). "Oh, but it's actually this ubergeeky reference to--" I don't care. The lay audience cares even less. The insidious metal oxide is what I think of, double so for the average person.
  - manigandham 10y ago
    What does it matter what the average person thinks? Are they making database/language decisions for your product? You can argue that potential managers might be influenced but it should be easy enough to put the merits of the product before the name itself.
    - macspoofing 10y ago
      This isn't really a rational discussion. We're complaining about a name.
      - SilasX 10y ago
        If your definition of "rational" excludes things with an actual impact on your ability to achieve your goals, then you either need a different definition of "rational", or you need to stop dismissing concerns that aren't rational.
    - SilasX 10y ago
      Would you see a problem with [obscenity]DB? Or SyphillisDB? PubesDB? If so, then you agree the name matters, "and we're just haggling over the details."
  - dilap 10y ago
    Hmm, I've always sort of liked rust. It's pretty. To me it has connotations of aging and transformation, but not something necessarily bad. Stuff like this: https://www.amazon.com/Never-Sleeps-Young-Crazy-Horse/dp/B01M9IJOF7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493704570&sr=8-1&keywords=rust+never+sleeps https://www.amazon.com/Never-Sleeps-Young-Crazy-Horse/dp/B01.... https://www.pinterest.com/tmdesigns56/rust-is-beautiful/?lp=true https://www.pinterest.com/tmdesigns56/rust-is-beautiful/?lp=... It's an interesting question of how much it's worth trading a memorable name for rubbing some people the wrong way.
- macspoofing 10y ago
  Rust? I just don't like the sound of it. Completely irrational.

Agreed. Atrocious name. Same with Mozilla's "Rust". Great language, terrible name.

adrift 10y ago

What's wrong with it?

SilasX 10y ago
Are you asking about rust? Not the parent but: Because the term has universally negative connotations: I don't like equipment that's rusted. I don't like when joints have rusted into position. I don't like getting rusty at skills. I don't like rusty pipes or rust getting into drinking water. I don't like turning on a faucet and seeing the color of rust come out. I know it's not 100% rational, but the feeling of revulsion nudged me away from learning about it until much later. It also invites easy puns about a system that runs "like it has a lot of rust in it" (already seen it happen). "Oh, but it's actually this ubergeeky reference to--" I don't care. The lay audience cares even less. The insidious metal oxide is what I think of, double so for the average person.
- manigandham 10y ago
  What does it matter what the average person thinks? Are they making database/language decisions for your product? You can argue that potential managers might be influenced but it should be easy enough to put the merits of the product before the name itself.
  - macspoofing 10y ago
    This isn't really a rational discussion. We're complaining about a name.
    - SilasX 10y ago
      If your definition of "rational" excludes things with an actual impact on your ability to achieve your goals, then you either need a different definition of "rational", or you need to stop dismissing concerns that aren't rational.
  - SilasX 10y ago
    Would you see a problem with [obscenity]DB? Or SyphillisDB? PubesDB? If so, then you agree the name matters, "and we're just haggling over the details."
- dilap 10y ago
  Hmm, I've always sort of liked rust. It's pretty. To me it has connotations of aging and transformation, but not something necessarily bad. Stuff like this: https://www.amazon.com/Never-Sleeps-Young-Crazy-Horse/dp/B01M9IJOF7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493704570&sr=8-1&keywords=rust+never+sleeps https://www.amazon.com/Never-Sleeps-Young-Crazy-Horse/dp/B01.... https://www.pinterest.com/tmdesigns56/rust-is-beautiful/?lp=true https://www.pinterest.com/tmdesigns56/rust-is-beautiful/?lp=... It's an interesting question of how much it's worth trading a memorable name for rubbing some people the wrong way.
macspoofing 10y ago
Rust? I just don't like the sound of it. Completely irrational.