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Have you looked at the curriculum of a CS Degree at a Uni? The first 2 years you're learning about geography and history with a little bit of modern dance and a

Have you looked at the curriculum of a CS Degree at a Uni? The first 2 years you're learning about geography and history with a little bit of modern dance and archeology. The last 2 years are barely related to what the industry needs and CS. My son who will be attending in the fall is still wondering why he needs to. His interest lies in Cyber Security and Programming and the curriculum is a joke. The majority of American Universities are failing. They are becoming irrelevant at an alarming rate unless of course your interested in Modern Dance and Italian Art History.

emodendroket 10y ago
The basic conception of the university is to give you a well rounded education and not turn you into a savant ignorant of anything not directly related to your major. I don't think that makes it a "joke" in the least.
- hourislate 10y ago
  That's the same old tired argument. So what does that say for folks who don't attend? That they don't have a well rounded education? I don't know what your experience has been or where you work but Uni does not give you a well rounded education and that should not be it's goal.
  - emodendroket 10y ago
    My degree isn't related to my job. What do you think the university should be, then?
    - hourislate 10y ago
      A place to learn about ones interests and to prepare the student with real skills employers need. No course should be forced upon a student unless it is directly related to his/her interest and choice of degree. Instead they force their version of what you need to know to keep a tenured prof working. University should start treating students like customers and not like they are doing you a favor. The days of these backwards and obsolete institutions are numbered. More and more companies don't care if you have a degree because they have realized it proves nothing. They want to know what skills you have and what you have accomplished, not what grade you received in modern dance and Intro to Computers 101. Haven't you noticed that the main complaint today from corporations are the Universities aren't teaching the skills kids need to know to be successful in Technology.
      - emodendroket 10y ago
        > Haven't you noticed that the main complaint today from corporations are the Universities aren't teaching the skills kids need to know to be successful in Technology. Yeah, I've noticed, and I think it betrays a wrongheaded conception of what universities ought to be (namely, vocational schools to which companies can outsource employee training on the student's dime). The idea of students as "customers" is also wrongheaded, in my view (although you're far from alone in having it).

emodendroket 10y ago

The basic conception of the university is to give you a well rounded education and not turn you into a savant ignorant of anything not directly related to your major. I don't think that makes it a "joke" in the least.

hourislate 10y ago
That's the same old tired argument. So what does that say for folks who don't attend? That they don't have a well rounded education? I don't know what your experience has been or where you work but Uni does not give you a well rounded education and that should not be it's goal.
- emodendroket 10y ago
  My degree isn't related to my job. What do you think the university should be, then?
  - hourislate 10y ago
    A place to learn about ones interests and to prepare the student with real skills employers need. No course should be forced upon a student unless it is directly related to his/her interest and choice of degree. Instead they force their version of what you need to know to keep a tenured prof working. University should start treating students like customers and not like they are doing you a favor. The days of these backwards and obsolete institutions are numbered. More and more companies don't care if you have a degree because they have realized it proves nothing. They want to know what skills you have and what you have accomplished, not what grade you received in modern dance and Intro to Computers 101. Haven't you noticed that the main complaint today from corporations are the Universities aren't teaching the skills kids need to know to be successful in Technology.
    - emodendroket 10y ago
      > Haven't you noticed that the main complaint today from corporations are the Universities aren't teaching the skills kids need to know to be successful in Technology. Yeah, I've noticed, and I think it betrays a wrongheaded conception of what universities ought to be (namely, vocational schools to which companies can outsource employee training on the student's dime). The idea of students as "customers" is also wrongheaded, in my view (although you're far from alone in having it).