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So basicly the perks are nice while creating the Death Star, and working at Tesla/SpaceX etc. Would require effort..

by martin_bech 9y ago

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Lest we allow Tesla to be used as the example of a good company... Tesla refuses to really treat owners of their cars like owners of their cars. Tesla remote pulls data from individual peoples' cars to defend themselves in press releases. If you try and interface with your Tesla, Tesla will call and threaten you. Even if you own the title to a Tesla, they may refuse to activate your car under certain circumstances. Teslas use their self-driving sensors to relay all of your driving data back to Tesla even if you didn't purchase the self-driving add-on. Some cars are sold with part of their battery capacity software disabled unless you pay to unlock it. And Tesla only allows access to its repair manual in the one state they're legally forced to... for $30 an hour to look at it online. There's also juvenile stuff like Tesla refusing to sell a car to a guy who wrote a negative comment about them online. This is a company which has a vastly distorted view of car "ownership" considering the incredible cost people pay to "own" one. I like a lot of what Elon Musk is doing, but some of the ways his car company behaves is as unethical as Google or Facebook.
MiddleEndian 9y ago
I prefer not to rearrange my life for my job if I don't have to. I relocated for Microsoft in the past but I like my current location and am uninterested in relocating for a company again. People as a whole should resist being pushed around by employers. On the topic, Elon Musk was involved in the creation of PayPal, which arbitrarily takes cash from people while bypassing bank regulations, yet many (both of us included apparently) have no inherent problem working for a Musk company.

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So basicly the perks are nice while creating the Death Star, and working at Tesla/SpaceX etc. Would require effort..

by martin_bech 9y ago

So basicly the perks are nice while creating the Death Star, and working at Tesla/SpaceX etc. Would require effort..

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Lest we allow Tesla to be used as the example of a good company... Tesla refuses to really treat owners of their cars like owners of their cars. Tesla remote pulls data from individual peoples' cars to defend themselves in press releases. If you try and interface with your Tesla, Tesla will call and threaten you. Even if you own the title to a Tesla, they may refuse to activate your car under certain circumstances. Teslas use their self-driving sensors to relay all of your driving data back to Tesla even if you didn't purchase the self-driving add-on. Some cars are sold with part of their battery capacity software disabled unless you pay to unlock it. And Tesla only allows access to its repair manual in the one state they're legally forced to... for $30 an hour to look at it online. There's also juvenile stuff like Tesla refusing to sell a car to a guy who wrote a negative comment about them online. This is a company which has a vastly distorted view of car "ownership" considering the incredible cost people pay to "own" one. I like a lot of what Elon Musk is doing, but some of the ways his car company behaves is as unethical as Google or Facebook.
MiddleEndian 9y ago
I prefer not to rearrange my life for my job if I don't have to. I relocated for Microsoft in the past but I like my current location and am uninterested in relocating for a company again. People as a whole should resist being pushed around by employers. On the topic, Elon Musk was involved in the creation of PayPal, which arbitrarily takes cash from people while bypassing bank regulations, yet many (both of us included apparently) have no inherent problem working for a Musk company.