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Drivers. Apple likes the control over the hardware and software, and packages all of the drivers needed to run macOS on any blessed instance of Apple hardware

Drivers. Apple likes the control over the hardware and software, and packages all of the drivers needed to run macOS on any blessed instance of Apple hardware currently supported (and maybe even ever created, since Intel). If you wanted, and I have done this before, you can clone a Mac made HDD and boot it from any other Mac you can get your hands on, and other than the hardware swap it's basically a reboot. If Apple let me build a tower and drop anything I wanted in to it, they can't guarantee that anymore, and even if it's just amongst developers, it hurts their brand experience.

dawnerd 10y ago
If it's for developers they don't have to guarantee it. I'm happily running a hackintosh right now. If they made it a little easier we wouldn't have to do weird hacks to spoof hardware ids just so messages work.
- 542458 10y ago
  I think the iOS "developer previews" have shown that even if you label something as being "unstable and just for developers" you'll still end up with thousands upon thousands of people with no idea what they're doing running it anyways and subsequently being vocally horrified that not everything works perfectly.
  - dawnerd 10y ago
    The difference is those people would now have to build hardware instead of just opening itunes and hitting install. You really think those users could get past the bios setup stage?
    - danieldk 10y ago
      people would now have to build hardware No, all kinds of companies will start offering machines as 'ready for macOS', and we'll see the same problems.
  - runjake 10y ago
    Hence why Apple implemented the Public Beta program. And it seems to work just fine.
- Operyl 10y ago
  Those weird hacks exist because of the spambot problem they're trying to prevent. It's enough of a hassle for us that iMessage spambots are practically nonexistent as a result.
  - hellbanner 10y ago
    Can you explain further? SMS spam bots can still exist, right?
    - dawnerd 10y ago
      Yep and so does iMessage spam. SMS spam is just easier and works just as well.
    - Operyl 10y ago
      The difference is SMS spam isn't "free", while iMessage spam could be free if they got over the technical barriers.
- accountyaccount 10y ago
  What happens when developers start selling these boxes and they break? People start hating on Apple because they don't know any better.
- intopieces 10y ago
  >If it's for developers they don't have to guarantee it. This would only be true in a world where Ars Technica, The Verge, and other publications did not exist. Apple would suffer from poor performance reviews for any sort of driver issue. Plus, "not guaranteed to work" is the opposite of Apple's ethos, which is "it just works." Apple has made it easy enough for hackitoshes to work by being lax with people running MacOS.
yardie 10y ago
I believe that is due to the fact of the strength of their xnu kernel than any drivers. I've installed my hackintosh HDD into a regular Mac and it booted just fine. It ignored the chameleon partition and booted the HDD as if it came from any other Mac. BTW, this isn't quite assured when copying a Hackintosh to another Hackintosh. Chameleon kernel injections are device specific. Different motherboards require different injectors.

dawnerd 10y ago

If it's for developers they don't have to guarantee it. I'm happily running a hackintosh right now. If they made it a little easier we wouldn't have to do weird hacks to spoof hardware ids just so messages work.

542458 10y ago
I think the iOS "developer previews" have shown that even if you label something as being "unstable and just for developers" you'll still end up with thousands upon thousands of people with no idea what they're doing running it anyways and subsequently being vocally horrified that not everything works perfectly.
- dawnerd 10y ago
  The difference is those people would now have to build hardware instead of just opening itunes and hitting install. You really think those users could get past the bios setup stage?
  - danieldk 10y ago
    people would now have to build hardware No, all kinds of companies will start offering machines as 'ready for macOS', and we'll see the same problems.
- runjake 10y ago
  Hence why Apple implemented the Public Beta program. And it seems to work just fine.
Operyl 10y ago
Those weird hacks exist because of the spambot problem they're trying to prevent. It's enough of a hassle for us that iMessage spambots are practically nonexistent as a result.
- hellbanner 10y ago
  Can you explain further? SMS spam bots can still exist, right?
  - dawnerd 10y ago
    Yep and so does iMessage spam. SMS spam is just easier and works just as well.
  - Operyl 10y ago
    The difference is SMS spam isn't "free", while iMessage spam could be free if they got over the technical barriers.
accountyaccount 10y ago
What happens when developers start selling these boxes and they break? People start hating on Apple because they don't know any better.
intopieces 10y ago
>If it's for developers they don't have to guarantee it. This would only be true in a world where Ars Technica, The Verge, and other publications did not exist. Apple would suffer from poor performance reviews for any sort of driver issue. Plus, "not guaranteed to work" is the opposite of Apple's ethos, which is "it just works." Apple has made it easy enough for hackitoshes to work by being lax with people running MacOS.

yardie 10y ago

I believe that is due to the fact of the strength of their xnu kernel than any drivers. I've installed my hackintosh HDD into a regular Mac and it booted just fine. It ignored the chameleon partition and booted the HDD as if it came from any other Mac. BTW, this isn't quite assured when copying a Hackintosh to another Hackintosh. Chameleon kernel injections are device specific. Different motherboards require different injectors.