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varunvkrishnan 9y ago
The list of domains owned by Google (Charleston Road Registry Inc.) & Amazon (Amazon Registry Services, Inc.) probably give a good idea about their future (predictable) priorities (Google - Ads, Android while Amazon's list looks more shopping oriented) Any ideas on what they they plan on doing with guge & esq domains?
- dastbe 9y ago
  guge is the pinyin for google in china
  - varunvkrishnan 9y ago
    That makes sense now.. thanks!
- jtokoph 9y ago
  I would guess they would target .esq to Attorneys. Someone else has .attorney so I wonder if Google tried for that one too.
- cornchips 9y ago
  Humorously expanding on that: boo = surprises eat = gluttony esq = lawyers page = egocentricity
purephase 9y ago
This is a crazy list. Great to see it all in one place though. I don't pay that much attention to the domain registration space any more, but has the explosion of TLDs achieved the goal of reducing .com cash runs? It certainly seems like other TLDs have reached a level of acceptance, but my experience is not reflective of the majority of users. Also, it's crazy to see TLDs with other languages. Very cool, and not surprising at all, but I've never seen that before.
- robalfonso 9y ago
  .com is still king. It's going to be a while until the others get real penetration. And some tld's are never going to take off. Either the pricing is completely unrealistic or the tld is so long you can achieve the same thing in a shorter tld.
  - degenerate 9y ago
    Looking at you, yes you... .international To me, the asinine part of these gTLDs is that companies can register their gTLD with sponsorship ($185K from when I last checked) yet they don't need to sell domains to the public. I understand the idea of exclusivity, but this simply shifts the profiteering racket from one set of players (domain squatters) to another (ICANN and big business). I'm not happy with how they are doing it. I'd rather a business model be required to sell domains at $X/yr to the public (some reasonable rate), along with a yearly sponsorship instead of one-time. That would put the focus on maintaining a business capable of supporting the cost of the gTLD instead of a digital billboard and bragging rights. Maybe if that was in place, we wouldn't have stupid ones like .northwesternmutual
    - robalfonso 9y ago
      I do see a business case for not selling. .canon for example - you could provide every device with its own domain ie xhshe3u45.canon etc. So there are some cases where it does make sense.
      - koolba 9y ago
        You can do that already with uuid.cam.canon.com. At best you save a few characters.
        dsl 9y ago
        Never co-host real applications and user controlled sites on the same root domain. You're just asking for a neverending stream of problems. (This is why everything ends up on googleusercontent.com and friends instead of google.com)
deathanatos 9y ago
Binky Sky, LLC Binky Frostbite, LLC Binky Birch, LLC Binky Galley, LLC Binky Moon, LLC Binky Lake, LLC Binky Glen, LLC Silver Glen, LLC Holly Glen, LLC Grand Glen, LLC Magic Glen, LLC Magic Birch, LLC Magic Woods, LLC Magic Pass, LLC Fern Pass, LLC Big Pass, LLC (snip, as it goes on and on) This reads like someone let their Markov chain register TLDs. Is there a rational explanation that isn't some domain-parking company grabbing up names and trying to conceal their identity by spamming the list with LLC shell companies? (And social networks get in a tizzy when I don't use my real name…)
- kijeda 9y ago
  I don't think it is an attempt to conceal their identity, if you look at the details of the registrations you can see these are all operated by Donuts (http://donuts.co http://donuts.co). Perhaps it is facilitate management and future adjustments to their portfolio.
- oxguy3 9y ago
  All of those companies are subsidiaries of Donuts: http://www.donuts.domains/ http://www.donuts.domains/ There's a complete list of all their TLDs (and the silly LLC names associated with them) here: https://domaintyper.com/new-gTLD/applicant/Donuts https://domaintyper.com/new-gTLD/applicant/Donuts I'm not sure why they formed LLCs for every domain they registered. IANA has lots of regulations and paperwork, and everything is really expensive and slow (it takes years to get a TLD registered). I'd imagine having every domain tied to its own LLC might make things easier (i.e. they can sell their TLDs by just selling the LLC, for example).
  - jsmthrowaway 9y ago
    It's a common practice for liability isolation in real estate management. Every Carmel property is its own LLC. Maybe similar thinking?
    - cakeface 9y ago
      Is Carmel a place or a company? A quick google did not help me and I'm curious.
oxguy3 9y ago
I don't understand why so many corporations have gone through the very-expensive years-long process of getting their brand name as a TLD, and then proceeded to not use their TLD at all. The only brand name TLD I've seen in real world use is .google (https://domains.google https://domains.google, https://blog.google https://blog.google). If you google "site:.whatever" ("whatever" being the TLD you want), you can see all the sites with that TLD that Google knows about. Very few of them have any other sites besides "nic.whatever" (which is just an information page about the TLD). I am seeing a few exceptions though: http://go.java http://go.java, http://interactive.cbs http://interactive.cbs
- vog 9y ago
  > I don't understand why [...] corporations [...] getting their brand name as a TLD, and then [...] not use their TLD I hope this doesn't sound too snarky, but: Maybe they know how worthless that TLD is, and just want to ensure they can't be damaged by competition registering those TLDs. After they secured those, they probably didn't want to waste even more money into that topic.
  - wheelerwj 9y ago
    exactly this. its nothing more than brand/reputation management. 200k is a pretty small sum for the security of that.
- wichert 9y ago
  Amazon uses their .aws tld as well. For example quicksight is hosted under https://quicksight.aws https://quicksight.aws, and Chime can be found at https://chime.aws https://chime.aws
olegkikin 9y ago
.youtube generic Charleston Road Registry Inc. Is Google OK with that?
- jhalstead 9y ago
  Yeah, that's a subsidiary of their's. See #6 in https://www.registry.google/about/faqs.html https://www.registry.google/about/faqs.html, and then https://goo.gl/maps/ZXcGhKqotHt https://goo.gl/maps/ZXcGhKqotHt for likely motivation behind the name.

The list of domains owned by Google (Charleston Road Registry Inc.) & Amazon (Amazon Registry Services, Inc.) probably give a good idea about their future (predictable) priorities (Google - Ads, Android while Amazon's list looks more shopping oriented) Any ideas on what they they plan on doing with guge & esq domains?

dastbe 9y ago
guge is the pinyin for google in china
- varunvkrishnan 9y ago
  That makes sense now.. thanks!
jtokoph 9y ago
I would guess they would target .esq to Attorneys. Someone else has .attorney so I wonder if Google tried for that one too.
cornchips 9y ago
Humorously expanding on that: boo = surprises eat = gluttony esq = lawyers page = egocentricity

purephase 9y ago

This is a crazy list. Great to see it all in one place though. I don't pay that much attention to the domain registration space any more, but has the explosion of TLDs achieved the goal of reducing .com cash runs? It certainly seems like other TLDs have reached a level of acceptance, but my experience is not reflective of the majority of users. Also, it's crazy to see TLDs with other languages. Very cool, and not surprising at all, but I've never seen that before.

robalfonso 9y ago
.com is still king. It's going to be a while until the others get real penetration. And some tld's are never going to take off. Either the pricing is completely unrealistic or the tld is so long you can achieve the same thing in a shorter tld.
- degenerate 9y ago
  Looking at you, yes you... .international To me, the asinine part of these gTLDs is that companies can register their gTLD with sponsorship ($185K from when I last checked) yet they don't need to sell domains to the public. I understand the idea of exclusivity, but this simply shifts the profiteering racket from one set of players (domain squatters) to another (ICANN and big business). I'm not happy with how they are doing it. I'd rather a business model be required to sell domains at $X/yr to the public (some reasonable rate), along with a yearly sponsorship instead of one-time. That would put the focus on maintaining a business capable of supporting the cost of the gTLD instead of a digital billboard and bragging rights. Maybe if that was in place, we wouldn't have stupid ones like .northwesternmutual
  - robalfonso 9y ago
    I do see a business case for not selling. .canon for example - you could provide every device with its own domain ie xhshe3u45.canon etc. So there are some cases where it does make sense.
    - koolba 9y ago
      You can do that already with uuid.cam.canon.com. At best you save a few characters.
      - dsl 9y ago
        Never co-host real applications and user controlled sites on the same root domain. You're just asking for a neverending stream of problems. (This is why everything ends up on googleusercontent.com and friends instead of google.com)

deathanatos 9y ago

Binky Sky, LLC Binky Frostbite, LLC Binky Birch, LLC Binky Galley, LLC Binky Moon, LLC Binky Lake, LLC Binky Glen, LLC Silver Glen, LLC Holly Glen, LLC Grand Glen, LLC Magic Glen, LLC Magic Birch, LLC Magic Woods, LLC Magic Pass, LLC Fern Pass, LLC Big Pass, LLC (snip, as it goes on and on) This reads like someone let their Markov chain register TLDs. Is there a rational explanation that isn't some domain-parking company grabbing up names and trying to conceal their identity by spamming the list with LLC shell companies? (And social networks get in a tizzy when I don't use my real name…)

kijeda 9y ago
I don't think it is an attempt to conceal their identity, if you look at the details of the registrations you can see these are all operated by Donuts (http://donuts.co http://donuts.co). Perhaps it is facilitate management and future adjustments to their portfolio.
oxguy3 9y ago
All of those companies are subsidiaries of Donuts: http://www.donuts.domains/ http://www.donuts.domains/ There's a complete list of all their TLDs (and the silly LLC names associated with them) here: https://domaintyper.com/new-gTLD/applicant/Donuts https://domaintyper.com/new-gTLD/applicant/Donuts I'm not sure why they formed LLCs for every domain they registered. IANA has lots of regulations and paperwork, and everything is really expensive and slow (it takes years to get a TLD registered). I'd imagine having every domain tied to its own LLC might make things easier (i.e. they can sell their TLDs by just selling the LLC, for example).
- jsmthrowaway 9y ago
  It's a common practice for liability isolation in real estate management. Every Carmel property is its own LLC. Maybe similar thinking?
  - cakeface 9y ago
    Is Carmel a place or a company? A quick google did not help me and I'm curious.

oxguy3 9y ago

I don't understand why so many corporations have gone through the very-expensive years-long process of getting their brand name as a TLD, and then proceeded to not use their TLD at all. The only brand name TLD I've seen in real world use is .google (https://domains.google https://domains.google, https://blog.google https://blog.google). If you google "site:.whatever" ("whatever" being the TLD you want), you can see all the sites with that TLD that Google knows about. Very few of them have any other sites besides "nic.whatever" (which is just an information page about the TLD). I am seeing a few exceptions though: http://go.java http://go.java, http://interactive.cbs http://interactive.cbs

vog 9y ago
> I don't understand why [...] corporations [...] getting their brand name as a TLD, and then [...] not use their TLD I hope this doesn't sound too snarky, but: Maybe they know how worthless that TLD is, and just want to ensure they can't be damaged by competition registering those TLDs. After they secured those, they probably didn't want to waste even more money into that topic.
- wheelerwj 9y ago
  exactly this. its nothing more than brand/reputation management. 200k is a pretty small sum for the security of that.
wichert 9y ago
Amazon uses their .aws tld as well. For example quicksight is hosted under https://quicksight.aws https://quicksight.aws, and Chime can be found at https://chime.aws https://chime.aws

olegkikin 9y ago

.youtube generic Charleston Road Registry Inc. Is Google OK with that?

jhalstead 9y ago
Yeah, that's a subsidiary of their's. See #6 in https://www.registry.google/about/faqs.html https://www.registry.google/about/faqs.html, and then https://goo.gl/maps/ZXcGhKqotHt https://goo.gl/maps/ZXcGhKqotHt for likely motivation behind the name.