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It is time to criminalize targeted advertising.

forinti 9y ago
Especially advertising targeted at children. The way I see it, an advert is a business proposal and children do not have the autonomy to engage in a deal.
- vikeri 9y ago
  It used to be illegal to direct TV ads at kids in Sweden but it's now been legalized to harmonize with the TV channels that were broadcasting from the UK. Even though it's legal the networks have refrained from doing it as far as I'm aware. Not sure about other mediums though.
- willyt 9y ago
  IANAL but my understanding is that wether an advert is a business proposal or not is based around the idea of an 'invitation to treat'[0] in contract law. It's pretty interesting reading about some of the cases where this concept developed. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat
dmerfield 9y ago
Not it's not. It's time to stop supporting ad-based businesses. Install an adblocker. Install an adblocker on your friends' and family's computers.
- malloreon 9y ago
  the vast majority of fb's usage is in-app mobile. how're you gonna ad-block that?
  - dmerfield 9y ago
    By not using Facebook's app.
    - malloreon 9y ago
      good answer. Got any tips for getting other people to stop using it too?
      - dnh44 9y ago
        Be the change you want to see in the world.
- owly 9y ago
  Installing an ad-blocker does not stop you from supporting FB indirectly. Your contacts, many of whom probably look to you for advice on all things technical, will still see your using FB as an example that it is a good platform. The only real way to change is to lead by example and leave FB permanently. Then foster communication and events outside of FB. Be the change.
wu-ikkyu 9y ago
>The term is used "to denote any action which is practiced mainly by psychological methods with the aim of evoking a planned psychological reaction in other people". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare
- openasocket 9y ago
  That's an absurdly broad definition. By that definition, clinical therapy is psychological warfare!
  - wu-ikkyu 9y ago
    Clinical therapy is social engineering
    - openasocket 9y ago
      What does that mean?
openasocket 9y ago
"targeted advertising" isn't a binary property though, it's a spectrum. Hanging fliers for a football workshop near a football stadium is targeted advertising. Running your ad for a college during a show very popular with high schoolers is targeted advertising. Putting my online ad for belt sanders on a woodworking site is targeted advertising. I don't see anything wrong with any of those, do you?

Especially advertising targeted at children. The way I see it, an advert is a business proposal and children do not have the autonomy to engage in a deal.

vikeri 9y ago
It used to be illegal to direct TV ads at kids in Sweden but it's now been legalized to harmonize with the TV channels that were broadcasting from the UK. Even though it's legal the networks have refrained from doing it as far as I'm aware. Not sure about other mediums though.
willyt 9y ago
IANAL but my understanding is that wether an advert is a business proposal or not is based around the idea of an 'invitation to treat'[0] in contract law. It's pretty interesting reading about some of the cases where this concept developed. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invitation_to_treat

dmerfield 9y ago

Not it's not. It's time to stop supporting ad-based businesses. Install an adblocker. Install an adblocker on your friends' and family's computers.

malloreon 9y ago
the vast majority of fb's usage is in-app mobile. how're you gonna ad-block that?
- dmerfield 9y ago
  By not using Facebook's app.
  - malloreon 9y ago
    good answer. Got any tips for getting other people to stop using it too?
    - dnh44 9y ago
      Be the change you want to see in the world.
owly 9y ago
Installing an ad-blocker does not stop you from supporting FB indirectly. Your contacts, many of whom probably look to you for advice on all things technical, will still see your using FB as an example that it is a good platform. The only real way to change is to lead by example and leave FB permanently. Then foster communication and events outside of FB. Be the change.

wu-ikkyu 9y ago

>The term is used "to denote any action which is practiced mainly by psychological methods with the aim of evoking a planned psychological reaction in other people". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare

openasocket 9y ago
That's an absurdly broad definition. By that definition, clinical therapy is psychological warfare!
- wu-ikkyu 9y ago
  Clinical therapy is social engineering
  - openasocket 9y ago
    What does that mean?

openasocket 9y ago

"targeted advertising" isn't a binary property though, it's a spectrum. Hanging fliers for a football workshop near a football stadium is targeted advertising. Running your ad for a college during a show very popular with high schoolers is targeted advertising. Putting my online ad for belt sanders on a woodworking site is targeted advertising. I don't see anything wrong with any of those, do you?