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Great so flash has set the groundwork for this kind of capability. But I'm confused as to the motivation behind this; certainly it highlights the fact that HTM

by ErrantX 16y ago

Great so flash has set the groundwork for this kind of capability. But I'm confused as to the motivation behind this; certainly it highlights the fact that HTML5 is only just coming into beginning as a standard. That we are only just working to replace flash with totally open standards. Beyond that I don't see a cohesive argument in favor of flash. It's mostly just mud throwing (note: I was equally derisive of Apples' "HTML5 rocks" nonsense). Flash is, as far as I see it, a non-optimal solution to many things we have been using it for (video, scripting/gaming etc.). So working on alternatives is a great idea.

jasonlotito 16y ago
The argument for HTML5, CSS3, JavaScript, etc isn't an argument against Flash. I don't see this page as suggesting HTML5 is bad, either, and that we shouldn't work on it. However, you have to admit there is a LOT of backlash against Flash for HTML5, and a lot of people suggesting that HTML5 can replace Flash now. Everything I've seen from the Flash community has been pretty reasoned: they are fine with HTML5, and want to see it succeed, but they aren't throwing away Flash now. Let's face it, Flash is still useful now. HTML5 cannot replace Flash now. Heck, even video isn't solved as a standard yet. And no, I'm not a flash developer.
- cracell 16y ago
  (I'm a Web Developer) The big issue I have with Flash Developers is that they use Flash for everything as it's what they know. Which I get, and sometimes that is the right route to take. Learning a new technology takes a long time and you often aren't going to get it right the first time. But a professional website needs to use the right tool for the problem and very very often Flash is a substandard tool for the problem and is simply used because that's what the developer knows. Flash Developers don't want a move away from Flash because they already know Flash and appreciate a lot of it's capabilities. And Web Developers want people to stop using something that crashes their non-windows browser and is often used to create low quality interfaces and break browser features.

by ErrantX 16y ago

jasonlotito 16y ago

The argument for HTML5, CSS3, JavaScript, etc isn't an argument against Flash. I don't see this page as suggesting HTML5 is bad, either, and that we shouldn't work on it. However, you have to admit there is a LOT of backlash against Flash for HTML5, and a lot of people suggesting that HTML5 can replace Flash now. Everything I've seen from the Flash community has been pretty reasoned: they are fine with HTML5, and want to see it succeed, but they aren't throwing away Flash now. Let's face it, Flash is still useful now. HTML5 cannot replace Flash now. Heck, even video isn't solved as a standard yet. And no, I'm not a flash developer.

cracell 16y ago
(I'm a Web Developer) The big issue I have with Flash Developers is that they use Flash for everything as it's what they know. Which I get, and sometimes that is the right route to take. Learning a new technology takes a long time and you often aren't going to get it right the first time. But a professional website needs to use the right tool for the problem and very very often Flash is a substandard tool for the problem and is simply used because that's what the developer knows. Flash Developers don't want a move away from Flash because they already know Flash and appreciate a lot of it's capabilities. And Web Developers want people to stop using something that crashes their non-windows browser and is often used to create low quality interfaces and break browser features.