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And this is how another smart person dedicated their life to solving puzzles, just so that they could get a job on an obscure feature in a giant company.

by NTDF9 9y ago

Kenji 9y ago
There are dumber things to dedicate your life to.
- NTDF9 9y ago
  There are better things for a Stanford grad to do. If this is all they want, they'd rather join a bootcamp!
  - coss 9y ago
    You have a pretty naive look on the world.
    - NTDF9 9y ago
      You have a pretty naive view of what a Stanford grad has available to him/her outside of grunt tech jobs. This Amazon job sucks by most measures. The next job that this candidate looks for will suck even more because this candidate will have to memorize and regurgitate the same crap again. This candidate is probably going to frustrate themselves to death. Tech industry is not at all great for engineers these days. Here's some food for you to chew: https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home
      - noir_lord 9y ago
        > Tech industry is not at all great for engineers these days. Plenty of jobs outside the 'Tech' industry bringing stuff into other companies, it's not as 'glamorous' but it pays the bills and you get through the door a lot easier. I'm from the UK and consciously stay out of the local start up scene because I think the culture was/is toxic and have for a long time but there are solid and interesting programming jobs out in the wider world.
        NTDF9 9y ago
        Americans are particularly suckers to money. It's cultural. For a lot of folks here, life is about that rat race. Said companies capitalize on that. It's the same in India and China as well. Too much competition for fewer and fewer resources, chasing money is the norm...until suddenly they're in a hospital death bed, trying to get out of medical debt.
adamrezich 9y ago
better that than dedicating oneself to a life of solving puzzles, only to be unable to get a job anywhere; trust me :(
toephu2 9y ago
And what do you do? Would you like me to marginalize it too? Any job could be marginalized in the way you just did.
- NTDF9 9y ago
  I'm sorry. If a Stanford grad gets the same job as a bootcamper, I fail to see the value of college. It's not so much about marginalizing a job as much as an examination of the value of education from a good school. Either education isn't valuable anymore or companies suck at allocating bright minds. You choose!

And this is how another smart person dedicated their life to solving puzzles, just so that they could get a job on an obscure feature in a giant company.

by NTDF9 9y ago

And this is how another smart person dedicated their life to solving puzzles, just so that they could get a job on an obscure feature in a giant company.

Kenji 9y ago

There are dumber things to dedicate your life to.

NTDF9 9y ago
There are better things for a Stanford grad to do. If this is all they want, they'd rather join a bootcamp!
- coss 9y ago
  You have a pretty naive look on the world.
  - NTDF9 9y ago
    You have a pretty naive view of what a Stanford grad has available to him/her outside of grunt tech jobs. This Amazon job sucks by most measures. The next job that this candidate looks for will suck even more because this candidate will have to memorize and regurgitate the same crap again. This candidate is probably going to frustrate themselves to death. Tech industry is not at all great for engineers these days. Here's some food for you to chew: https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home https://sites.google.com/site/thefaceofamazon/home
    - noir_lord 9y ago
      > Tech industry is not at all great for engineers these days. Plenty of jobs outside the 'Tech' industry bringing stuff into other companies, it's not as 'glamorous' but it pays the bills and you get through the door a lot easier. I'm from the UK and consciously stay out of the local start up scene because I think the culture was/is toxic and have for a long time but there are solid and interesting programming jobs out in the wider world.
      - NTDF9 9y ago
        Americans are particularly suckers to money. It's cultural. For a lot of folks here, life is about that rat race. Said companies capitalize on that. It's the same in India and China as well. Too much competition for fewer and fewer resources, chasing money is the norm...until suddenly they're in a hospital death bed, trying to get out of medical debt.

adamrezich 9y ago

better that than dedicating oneself to a life of solving puzzles, only to be unable to get a job anywhere; trust me :(

toephu2 9y ago

And what do you do? Would you like me to marginalize it too? Any job could be marginalized in the way you just did.

NTDF9 9y ago
I'm sorry. If a Stanford grad gets the same job as a bootcamper, I fail to see the value of college. It's not so much about marginalizing a job as much as an examination of the value of education from a good school. Either education isn't valuable anymore or companies suck at allocating bright minds. You choose!