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The article seems to point to these two as the main reasons why fruit juice is not as good as fruit: 1) when you make juice, you leave some of the most wholeso
by merraksh 9y ago
The article seems to point to these two as the main reasons why fruit juice is not as good as fruit:
1) when you make juice, you leave some of the most wholesome parts of the fruit behind. The skin on an apple, the seeds in raspberries and the membranes that hold orange segments together — they are all good for you. That is where most of the fiber, as well as many of the antioxidants, phytonutrients, vitamins and minerals are hiding. Fiber is good for your gut; it fills you up and slows the absorption of the sugars you eat, resulting in smaller spikes in insulin.
2) when you drink your calories instead of eating them, your brain doesn’t get the same “I’m full” signal that it does from solid food, even though you wind up consuming far more calories in the process.
[edit: clarified text is quoted from the article]
- darkstar999 9y agoYes, the article thinks that as well.
- foo101 9y agoIf I put a whole apple with its skin or raspberry with its seed, or orange in a mixer-grinder, how or when exactly do I lose the skin, seeds or membranes during the process of making juice?
- elmerland 9y agoI think they are talking about the more common process of leaving out the pulp and only serving the liquid.
- Artemis2 9y agoWouldn't that be a smoothie? I'm curious about the difference with just eating the fruit.
- jpalomaki 9y agoI've heard some claims that blending would break up the fruit in too small many pieces leading to sugars that absorb more quickly - but I've never seen anything to back these claims. One difference is of course that when you eat the fruit, you chew it. This takes time and this may give some "food coming, hunger over" signal to the brain. Smoothies are so easy to drink that you might be getting way more fruits than you would normally eat.
- throwaway91111 9y agoWhat is the problem with rapid metabolism? Isn't that a good thing, so long as you have the varied nutrients to ensure the long tail of metabolism? E.g. A mixture of fructose, glucose, and more complex carbohydrates.
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- JustSomeNobody 9y agoHow does this compare to the lady in the very first part of the article who drank freshly squeezed juice? What you're doing is not "freshly squeezed".
- foo101 9y agoWhy what I am doing is not freshly squeezed? What is it then? Not a native English speaker, so trying to understand the difference.
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- patrickmn 9y agoNot to mention most juice is loaded with fructose.
- juicingman 9y agoWhat is the problem with fructose, do you think?
- pkulak 9y agoIt metabolises to fat in your liver if you consume more than a tiny portion of it.
- arcticbull 9y agoNot exactly, fructose metabolism does happen in the liver, turning fructose into DHAP and glyceraldehyde. These products are then further metabolized elsewhere in the body. The reason Fructose is used as a sugar substitute for people with blood sugar control problems is that due to the liver enzyme mediated metabolic pathway, you don't get the same instantaneous insulin spike as you do with glucose, which passes right through the liver and is metabolized directly in other tissues. However, consuming too much fructose can lead to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease which is much like cirrhosis. Pretty much tl;dr: all sugars are bad for you. They're better for you in fruits because they're trapped in plant fibers which slow down their absorption into the bloodstream allowing your body to spread out the load over time. Fiber also makes you feel full so you're less likely to go back for more. [] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose
- juicingman 9y agoThis is, of course, complete nonsense, because humans are notoriously inefficient at the process you describe, de novo lipogenesis. You've been listening to that fructomaniac and dairy shill Robert Lustig, haven't you? Too bad!
- mamon 9y agoProblem is, that unlike glucose, consuming fructose does not make us feel full, so it is very easy to consume a lot of it.
- cocktailpeanuts 9y agoI agree with your point 2, but I disagree on point 1. > when you make juice, you leave some of the most wholesome parts of the fruit behind. The skin on an apple, the seeds in raspberries and the membranes that hold orange segments together Since people mean one of those smoothie-like juice which you make with a blender when they talk about "healthy juice", I'll talk about that. It's actually the opposite for me. I never eat apple skin, and never really like raspberry seeds, also no grape seeds. But when I put them all into a juicer and make a juice, i drink all that. Who drinks "squeezed juice" nowadays when they can make one with a juicer anyway?
- hn_throwaway_99 9y agoParent's comments are direct quotes from the article. > Who drinks "squeezed juice" nowadays when they can make one with a juicer anyway? Lots of people. And to clarify, a juicer refers to a device that leaves all the fiber behind, as opposed to smoothies from a blender.
- sullyj3 9y ago> your brain doesn’t get the same “I’m full” signal that it does from solid food Does that mean if I'm underweight, I should drink a lot of it?
- swombat 9y agoIf you want to put on fat, a diet rich in sugary drinks will do you wonders. Doesn't have to be expensive fruit juice either. Just drink lots of soft drinks every day, like, 3 litres or more, and you're setting yourself on a solid path to obesity. If you want to put on muscle you'll need to do better than that.
- syncopatience 9y agoThere's always GOMAD! https://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/ https://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight...
- jksmith 9y agoHah remember it well when I was trying to get to 20 stone.
- louprado 9y agoYep, then spend 2 years in pain from the tendonitis and ligament damage. Those tissue have a lot less blood flow than muscle so they can't keep up with stupid fast growth. Good form to prevent injury takes practice too, years of it! But I suppose if you are taking steroids you might heal faster in the short term. Or just gain a pound a month and talk to a therapist about your body dysmorphia. A therapist is way cheaper than a surgeon. You'll also learn a lot about the limits of your body and learn a sustainable way to build strength and muscle.
- juicingman 9y agoSugar doesn't cause obesity in humans. This is a trite and dull myth which is easily disproved by researching "de novo lipogenesis" in humans. It only takes a few minutes to do, and it will unburden you from the propaganda you regurgitate.