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What's really sad is how they took Nokia down in flames with them. I'm really looking forward to seeing HMD Global rise Nokia out of the ashes - the new 3310 is

by pentae 9y ago

What's really sad is how they took Nokia down in flames with them. I'm really looking forward to seeing HMD Global rise Nokia out of the ashes - the new 3310 is a great start but without 3G/4G LTE support is DOA. Lots of countries don't even have the old 2G spectrums anymore. That being said, if I was Samsung i'd be very concerned about the new Android powered Nokia phones hitting the market.

BoorishBears 9y ago
I have no idea why I keep hearing doom and gloom over the lack of 3G/4G on the new 3310 when it's marketed towards countries where the original 3310 isn't an uncommon second phone...
- sweden 9y ago
  Aside from the lack of security from the 2G networks, not to mention the worse quality call, it is very likely that 2G will be phase out during the next decade in many countries. This will render the phone utterly useless.
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- pentae 9y ago
  Precisely because it limits it to specific markets you mentioned. The new 3310 got a ton of press in the US/AU/EU etc and lots of people like myself would love to buy one as a second phone. In a lot of places such as Singapore the 2G network is already phased out. It's a huge missed opportunity.
  - Markoff 9y ago
    how is it different from any other Nokia feature phone? i still don't get what's so special about this 3310 compared to other legendary cheap models of Nokia which they produced in recent years like 1100, except ripoff name
aswanson 9y ago
Nokia's management made a horribly bad choice in choosing Windows over Android. It's 100 percent their fault.
- mee_too 9y ago
  Choosing Android would not have saved them. Google didn't like Nokia and would've given new OS versions to other companies first. Nokia had to buy most of the components from Android phone manufacturers - Samsung, LG, Sony. They stood no chance. They were doomed by the Symbian technical debt. When the iPhone came out, a very smart person posted a comment on HN saying Nokia is dead and he was right I guess :)
  - aswanson 9y ago
    Why did google dislike Nokia?
  - bitmapbrother 9y ago
    Unless you can predict the future you have no proof that it would have saved them or not. But, one thing is certain - by choosing to exclusively go with Windows Phone they sealed their demise. Also, your accusation that Google didn't like Nokia is also baseless and your explanation is bizarre.
- frik 9y ago
  You can read the full story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Elop#Early_leadership_positions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Elop#Early_leadership_... Stephen Elop is now an infamous business book case. He was a Microsoft manager, than a trajan horse as Nokia CEO who burned their main platforms, shifted to WinPhone, de-valued Nokia, MS bought the Nokia devision, MS burned the devision ... read the article, btw Nokia was the biggest phone and smartphone (Symbian) manufacturer back then.
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by pentae 9y ago

BoorishBears 9y ago

I have no idea why I keep hearing doom and gloom over the lack of 3G/4G on the new 3310 when it's marketed towards countries where the original 3310 isn't an uncommon second phone...

sweden 9y ago
Aside from the lack of security from the 2G networks, not to mention the worse quality call, it is very likely that 2G will be phase out during the next decade in many countries. This will render the phone utterly useless.
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pentae 9y ago
Precisely because it limits it to specific markets you mentioned. The new 3310 got a ton of press in the US/AU/EU etc and lots of people like myself would love to buy one as a second phone. In a lot of places such as Singapore the 2G network is already phased out. It's a huge missed opportunity.
- Markoff 9y ago
  how is it different from any other Nokia feature phone? i still don't get what's so special about this 3310 compared to other legendary cheap models of Nokia which they produced in recent years like 1100, except ripoff name

aswanson 9y ago

Nokia's management made a horribly bad choice in choosing Windows over Android. It's 100 percent their fault.

mee_too 9y ago
Choosing Android would not have saved them. Google didn't like Nokia and would've given new OS versions to other companies first. Nokia had to buy most of the components from Android phone manufacturers - Samsung, LG, Sony. They stood no chance. They were doomed by the Symbian technical debt. When the iPhone came out, a very smart person posted a comment on HN saying Nokia is dead and he was right I guess :)
- aswanson 9y ago
  Why did google dislike Nokia?
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  Unless you can predict the future you have no proof that it would have saved them or not. But, one thing is certain - by choosing to exclusively go with Windows Phone they sealed their demise. Also, your accusation that Google didn't like Nokia is also baseless and your explanation is bizarre.
frik 9y ago
You can read the full story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Elop#Early_leadership_positions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Elop#Early_leadership_... Stephen Elop is now an infamous business book case. He was a Microsoft manager, than a trajan horse as Nokia CEO who burned their main platforms, shifted to WinPhone, de-valued Nokia, MS bought the Nokia devision, MS burned the devision ... read the article, btw Nokia was the biggest phone and smartphone (Symbian) manufacturer back then.
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