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I think they did care, they just couldn't get it right. Just look how horribly buggy w10m has been despite months of patching and bug fixing.

MiddleEndian 9y ago
They made some conscious and poor design choices in w10m. They decided to copy Android in a bunch of weird ways, too many notifications and inconsistent keyboard behavior.
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- vezycash 9y ago
  12 reasons WP died. Ms-Nokia actively sabotaged/tripped WP on every step. 1. Charging $100 yearly developer fee was crazy. ESP since they were the incumbent and Google was charging a one-time fee of $49 if memory serves me. 2. MS decision not to allow sideloading of apps basically killed their chances outside US, UK, Germany... - places without cheap broadband. Even IOS allowed for apps to be downloaded on a computer. Many of my potential WP converts ran to Android for this very reason. AFAIK, MS has issues increasing Store usage on Win10 in my country because store apps installation files can't be stored offline. 3. API limitations - if the initial developer fee put a nail on the coffin. This was the hammer that drove it home. A lot of developers simply quit and focused on android. The few who persisted habitually wrote messages like, "...feature cannot be done due to a limitation in the OS" 4. Speed - if Bill was in charge, WP would be hale & hearty right now. Ballmer and his people took their sweet time before adding new features - as if they were competing with resourceless startups or stagnant giants. Thousands of feature requests flooded Nokia forum, the ln user voice - only for a handful to be added a year and six months later. E.g. Notification area, file manager, folders, led notification, wifi direct 5. Apple worship - IMO WP was Microsoft's first attempt to out-Apple Apple on design. Win8 was the second and Surface was the third. They forgot to notice that Apple never copied blindly - copying the spirit of a design or feature - Apple STOLE. Since WP, win8..10 all that matters to Ms is looks and pays lip service usability & productivity. 6. Nokia released too many phones with nonsensical, confusing naming. They released flagships with 2 year old processors. And randomly removed features available in low range phones from high/mid range phones and vice versa. 7. Nokia att exclusives killed more sales than they would ever know. 8. Ms/Nokia focused too much on the US market. In fact, Ms behaves as if only US market exists. Cortana spent more than a year as a US exclusive. Till today, some Bing features are US only. 9. Marketing - MS simply didn't market the OS. Nokia - a hardware partner did 100x more marketing than ever MS. 10. Selling the OS - selling the OS free for the first 2 years would have bought them many partners esp since Android was free. 11. Platform reboot - wp7, wp8, Wp8.1, wp10. Every reboot inflicted a deep wound on fans, OEMs and the OS. This reboot issue plagues Skype as well. I remember at least 4 reboots of skype on WP. 12. Nadella - he buried WP.
  - frik 9y ago
    Thanks for the write up, I fully agree. Ad 12: the current management has little clue and no technical knowledge, they are milking Windows and Office, until its too late. They fired their QA departments - their products are getting more and more buggy (e.g. a Top500 company canceled the WinPhone10 plan as the phone address book showed random profile photos from unrelated Exchange contacts - wtf). Beside enterprise and public sector, they already burned down their brands. They lost the younger generations because of pure ignorance and incompetence, Generations X and Y look elsewhere - ChromeBook/Mac, iOS/Android and GoogleDocs/Pages.

MiddleEndian 9y ago

They made some conscious and poor design choices in w10m. They decided to copy Android in a bunch of weird ways, too many notifications and inconsistent keyboard behavior.

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vezycash 9y ago
12 reasons WP died. Ms-Nokia actively sabotaged/tripped WP on every step. 1. Charging $100 yearly developer fee was crazy. ESP since they were the incumbent and Google was charging a one-time fee of $49 if memory serves me. 2. MS decision not to allow sideloading of apps basically killed their chances outside US, UK, Germany... - places without cheap broadband. Even IOS allowed for apps to be downloaded on a computer. Many of my potential WP converts ran to Android for this very reason. AFAIK, MS has issues increasing Store usage on Win10 in my country because store apps installation files can't be stored offline. 3. API limitations - if the initial developer fee put a nail on the coffin. This was the hammer that drove it home. A lot of developers simply quit and focused on android. The few who persisted habitually wrote messages like, "...feature cannot be done due to a limitation in the OS" 4. Speed - if Bill was in charge, WP would be hale & hearty right now. Ballmer and his people took their sweet time before adding new features - as if they were competing with resourceless startups or stagnant giants. Thousands of feature requests flooded Nokia forum, the ln user voice - only for a handful to be added a year and six months later. E.g. Notification area, file manager, folders, led notification, wifi direct 5. Apple worship - IMO WP was Microsoft's first attempt to out-Apple Apple on design. Win8 was the second and Surface was the third. They forgot to notice that Apple never copied blindly - copying the spirit of a design or feature - Apple STOLE. Since WP, win8..10 all that matters to Ms is looks and pays lip service usability & productivity. 6. Nokia released too many phones with nonsensical, confusing naming. They released flagships with 2 year old processors. And randomly removed features available in low range phones from high/mid range phones and vice versa. 7. Nokia att exclusives killed more sales than they would ever know. 8. Ms/Nokia focused too much on the US market. In fact, Ms behaves as if only US market exists. Cortana spent more than a year as a US exclusive. Till today, some Bing features are US only. 9. Marketing - MS simply didn't market the OS. Nokia - a hardware partner did 100x more marketing than ever MS. 10. Selling the OS - selling the OS free for the first 2 years would have bought them many partners esp since Android was free. 11. Platform reboot - wp7, wp8, Wp8.1, wp10. Every reboot inflicted a deep wound on fans, OEMs and the OS. This reboot issue plagues Skype as well. I remember at least 4 reboots of skype on WP. 12. Nadella - he buried WP.
- frik 9y ago
  Thanks for the write up, I fully agree. Ad 12: the current management has little clue and no technical knowledge, they are milking Windows and Office, until its too late. They fired their QA departments - their products are getting more and more buggy (e.g. a Top500 company canceled the WinPhone10 plan as the phone address book showed random profile photos from unrelated Exchange contacts - wtf). Beside enterprise and public sector, they already burned down their brands. They lost the younger generations because of pure ignorance and incompetence, Generations X and Y look elsewhere - ChromeBook/Mac, iOS/Android and GoogleDocs/Pages.