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Well, you can't have revenue if you have nothing to sell. No new phones + removing old ones from stores means no sells.

morganvachon 9y ago
That's what I can't understand. Why even buy Nokia if there was no intention of continuing to manufacture phones a few years later? If they had released three new phones (low end, mid tier, flagship) in February 2017 they would have at least kept up with previous earnings. If the flagship model (and perhaps even the mid tier) were released as the rumored "Surface" models and specced appropriately, they would likely have seen a small increase initially and greater sales as the year goes on. Instead, we get more advertising and less privacy than before, in Windows 10 on the desktop. I'm done, Microsoft.
- bpicolo 9y ago
  I wonder if they aren't hoping to leverage React Native's growth to expand the platform's app offerings (eventually). The real problem is that innovation in the mobile space has just stagnated. It was a 10-year explosive all-in from Apple and Google and the winners are kinda just in place now. The industry happened very quickly. I don't see a compelling reason for consumers to jump ship unless something big actually comes about (why would they?)
Theodores 9y ago
I don't understand it, there should be a customer base for managed rather than BYOD devices where a Microsoft device should be mandatory, as per Blackberry in earlier times. Although not a huge market compared to the mainstream iOS/Android world this market could make enough money to support three or four devices that do a good job of running Microsoft things. Such devices need not be marketed as 'phones' but more as 'Pocket Office', so you have a gadget that completely connects you to work doing things like Office and Outlook properly, a deluxe experience. Remote desktop should also be a thing so your 'Pocket Office' can be just another desktop window, with Synergy style copy and paste. It would not have been that hard for them to have got that seamless experience right, to not care about regular phone apps and just deliver the experience their corporate customers would want, with endpoints of their network fully locked down. Surface has proven that MS can sell decent hardware to companies, they should have done the same with the phone even if the market was to be a new 'Pocket Office' one rather than a 'smartphone' one.

That's what I can't understand. Why even buy Nokia if there was no intention of continuing to manufacture phones a few years later? If they had released three new phones (low end, mid tier, flagship) in February 2017 they would have at least kept up with previous earnings. If the flagship model (and perhaps even the mid tier) were released as the rumored "Surface" models and specced appropriately, they would likely have seen a small increase initially and greater sales as the year goes on. Instead, we get more advertising and less privacy than before, in Windows 10 on the desktop. I'm done, Microsoft.

bpicolo 9y ago
I wonder if they aren't hoping to leverage React Native's growth to expand the platform's app offerings (eventually). The real problem is that innovation in the mobile space has just stagnated. It was a 10-year explosive all-in from Apple and Google and the winners are kinda just in place now. The industry happened very quickly. I don't see a compelling reason for consumers to jump ship unless something big actually comes about (why would they?)

Theodores 9y ago

I don't understand it, there should be a customer base for managed rather than BYOD devices where a Microsoft device should be mandatory, as per Blackberry in earlier times. Although not a huge market compared to the mainstream iOS/Android world this market could make enough money to support three or four devices that do a good job of running Microsoft things. Such devices need not be marketed as 'phones' but more as 'Pocket Office', so you have a gadget that completely connects you to work doing things like Office and Outlook properly, a deluxe experience. Remote desktop should also be a thing so your 'Pocket Office' can be just another desktop window, with Synergy style copy and paste. It would not have been that hard for them to have got that seamless experience right, to not care about regular phone apps and just deliver the experience their corporate customers would want, with endpoints of their network fully locked down. Surface has proven that MS can sell decent hardware to companies, they should have done the same with the phone even if the market was to be a new 'Pocket Office' one rather than a 'smartphone' one.