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EPA removes climate change information

53 points by philngo 9y ago

wyldfire 9y ago
It's interesting, the new President seems to be able to reverse himself on many issues after discussing them with bureaucrats/foreign policy/trade experts. I wonder who among his administration could convince him to change his mind here.
- angstrom 9y ago
  I'm still not convinced it's not an act. The guy would have to be unusually dense to govern with ignorance of both a priori and a posteriori knowledge. The greenhouse effect was discovered over 100 years ago, not placed on a napkin as a hunch in a bar 10 years ago.
  - spitfire 9y ago
    It’s hard to make a man understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding it.
    - clishem 9y ago
      – Upton Sinclair
  - watmough 9y ago
    I think you are vastly underestimating the capacity of (near)human beings to be completely fucking stupid and delusional.
- melling 9y ago
  Many of his base don't believe in global warming, or if they do that it's big problem, or that it's too costly to fix. Skip to about 6 minutes in of this TED talk to get an idea on how some people think about climate change: https://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_priorities https://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_prioriti...
  - helthanatos 9y ago
    It's not a big deal
  - wyldfire 9y ago
    Right, but they were also big on several of the isolationist policies that he seems to be quickly doing a ctrl-Z on.
sb057 9y ago
The title of this submission is blatantly false. Of the three sentences on that page, one deals exclusively with linking to a copy of the information.
- azinman2 9y ago
  They will likely remove that link soon. That the page and all it's contents are no longer on the main site means the title is pretty much accurate.
- philngo 9y ago
  Agreed, "archives" would have been a better choice.
CriticalSection 9y ago
Reminds me of one of Peter Norvig's "Plot Synopses for Episodes of a Gilligan’s Island Remake Starring Members of the Bush Administration" for McSweeney's Internet Tendency "The professor’s experiments conclusively show that climate change is causing the island to sink into the sea. Gilligan erases his papers and tries to stop him from talking, thinking that will make the problem go away."
FTA 9y ago
This should be retitled to "EPA shifts priority and retains only an archive of climate change information" (linked on that page to https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climatechange_.html https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climatechange_.html). Yes, President Trump does not care about climate change--we all know that. But we should be saving our outrage and upvotes for situations where it is actually warranted.
Proven 9y ago
Good!
Svekax 9y ago
The same things that make you laugh make you cry. http://i.imgur.com/a7lHIaV.gif http://i.imgur.com/a7lHIaV.gif In a few years republicans will be complaining that democrats are manipulating the data.

53 points by philngo 9y ago

It's interesting, the new President seems to be able to reverse himself on many issues after discussing them with bureaucrats/foreign policy/trade experts. I wonder who among his administration could convince him to change his mind here.

angstrom 9y ago
I'm still not convinced it's not an act. The guy would have to be unusually dense to govern with ignorance of both a priori and a posteriori knowledge. The greenhouse effect was discovered over 100 years ago, not placed on a napkin as a hunch in a bar 10 years ago.
- spitfire 9y ago
  It’s hard to make a man understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding it.
  - clishem 9y ago
    – Upton Sinclair
- watmough 9y ago
  I think you are vastly underestimating the capacity of (near)human beings to be completely fucking stupid and delusional.
melling 9y ago
Many of his base don't believe in global warming, or if they do that it's big problem, or that it's too costly to fix. Skip to about 6 minutes in of this TED talk to get an idea on how some people think about climate change: https://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_priorities https://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_prioriti...
- helthanatos 9y ago
  It's not a big deal
- wyldfire 9y ago
  Right, but they were also big on several of the isolationist policies that he seems to be quickly doing a ctrl-Z on.

sb057 9y ago

The title of this submission is blatantly false. Of the three sentences on that page, one deals exclusively with linking to a copy of the information.

azinman2 9y ago
They will likely remove that link soon. That the page and all it's contents are no longer on the main site means the title is pretty much accurate.
philngo 9y ago
Agreed, "archives" would have been a better choice.

CriticalSection 9y ago

Reminds me of one of Peter Norvig's "Plot Synopses for Episodes of a Gilligan’s Island Remake Starring Members of the Bush Administration" for McSweeney's Internet Tendency "The professor’s experiments conclusively show that climate change is causing the island to sink into the sea. Gilligan erases his papers and tries to stop him from talking, thinking that will make the problem go away."

FTA 9y ago

This should be retitled to "EPA shifts priority and retains only an archive of climate change information" (linked on that page to https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climatechange_.html https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climatechange_.html). Yes, President Trump does not care about climate change--we all know that. But we should be saving our outrage and upvotes for situations where it is actually warranted.

Proven 9y ago

Good!

Svekax 9y ago

The same things that make you laugh make you cry. http://i.imgur.com/a7lHIaV.gif http://i.imgur.com/a7lHIaV.gif In a few years republicans will be complaining that democrats are manipulating the data.