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I'm pretty disappointed by some of the comments here. Because Turks voted him in that makes Erdogan's autocratic rule OK? There is no free press, hundreds of th

I'm pretty disappointed by some of the comments here. Because Turks voted him in that makes Erdogan's autocratic rule OK? There is no free press, hundreds of thousands that have had any association with opposition groups have been jailed, the referendum vote has been widely discredited as fraudulent. Hitler was voted into office too, I guess that just ended up being the German's problem? Democracy doesn't die without a majority of the population allowing it to, that doesn't make it right and that doesn't excuse some of the blase attitude I see here. You know you can care about something without wanting to go to war over it.

arekkas 9y ago
On a side note, Hitler was not elected into office but came in second in the election for "Reichskanzler". The NSDAP came out strongest party with 33,1%. Politicians at that time thought they could tame him if he becomes part of a coalition. They guessed wrong and he assumed full power. If you play the Hitler card at least get it right.
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- nisa 9y ago
  > If you play the Hitler card at least get it right. NPD is a German right wing party that was founded 1964 and is nothing like the NSDAP that you meant. Fun fact: NPD was not forbidden in Germany due to too much involvement of the Verfassungsschutz (German secret service for everything inside Germany) - they paid so much money to informants on the extreme right that they managed to build solid structures in large parts of the country.
  - arekkas 9y ago
    Oh, sorry, mixed that up. Same breed :D Almost typed AfD
- kleiba 9y ago
  Some further explanation: In the Weimar Republic (the German state between the two worlds wars) the Reichskanzler (head of government) was not elected directly by the people. Instead, people voted for parties. The head of state was the President, and it was him who appointed the Reichskanzler. In January 1933, President Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Reichskanzler of Germany.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    And that post had very little power. Hitler more or less became an absolute dictator with the passage of the Enabling Act a few months later. Getting that act through parliament involved arresting a bunch of opposition members and intimidating the rest using armed men, so it really wasn't a democratic process.
    - kleiba 9y ago
      ...which, as one could argue, brings use nicely back to the original topic of Turkey. - https://news.vice.com/story/erdogan-is-still-arresting-his-opponents-in-massive-purge-that-has-surpassed-113000-people https://news.vice.com/story/erdogan-is-still-arresting-his-o... - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-referendum-intimidation-unfair-campaigning-watchdog-observer-european-council-a7687206.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-refere...

arekkas 9y ago

On a side note, Hitler was not elected into office but came in second in the election for "Reichskanzler". The NSDAP came out strongest party with 33,1%. Politicians at that time thought they could tame him if he becomes part of a coalition. They guessed wrong and he assumed full power. If you play the Hitler card at least get it right.

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nisa 9y ago
> If you play the Hitler card at least get it right. NPD is a German right wing party that was founded 1964 and is nothing like the NSDAP that you meant. Fun fact: NPD was not forbidden in Germany due to too much involvement of the Verfassungsschutz (German secret service for everything inside Germany) - they paid so much money to informants on the extreme right that they managed to build solid structures in large parts of the country.
- arekkas 9y ago
  Oh, sorry, mixed that up. Same breed :D Almost typed AfD
kleiba 9y ago
Some further explanation: In the Weimar Republic (the German state between the two worlds wars) the Reichskanzler (head of government) was not elected directly by the people. Instead, people voted for parties. The head of state was the President, and it was him who appointed the Reichskanzler. In January 1933, President Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Reichskanzler of Germany.
- mikeash 9y ago
  And that post had very little power. Hitler more or less became an absolute dictator with the passage of the Enabling Act a few months later. Getting that act through parliament involved arresting a bunch of opposition members and intimidating the rest using armed men, so it really wasn't a democratic process.
  - kleiba 9y ago
    ...which, as one could argue, brings use nicely back to the original topic of Turkey. - https://news.vice.com/story/erdogan-is-still-arresting-his-opponents-in-massive-purge-that-has-surpassed-113000-people https://news.vice.com/story/erdogan-is-still-arresting-his-o... - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-referendum-intimidation-unfair-campaigning-watchdog-observer-european-council-a7687206.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-refere...