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I have often thought that autistic people or socio-path people who have had to learn the appropriate responses to various human emotions would be a good resourc

I have often thought that autistic people or socio-path people who have had to learn the appropriate responses to various human emotions would be a good resource for AI research in the area of developing more "human like" interactions. I am not autistic but I think I have elements of that lack of empathy, so I have had to also learn certain rule sets in a similar way: if someone says thing A that is supposed to have reaction B. Intensity of A implies Intensity B depending on situation C and so on. It would be interesting to capture all those rule sets from various subjects.

throwaway91111 10y ago
I always thought that austic people had an abundance of empathy but dealing with that is very hard.
- zw123456 10y ago
  hmmm, could be I am confusing sociopathy and autism ?
  - throwaway91111 10y ago
    I have no idea; some people on the autistic spectrum may have issues with it too. I guess my point is that autism seems to be about ability to handle social situations rather than the underlying reasons.
- mercer 10y ago
  As I understand it a distinction is made in psychology between affective empathy and cognitive empathy. Affective empathy is feeling sad when you see someone sad. Cognitive empathy is the ability to "put yourself in another's shoes", so to speak. Autistic people can come across as lacking empathy because they have difficulty with the latter, but the 'affective' form of empathy is (usually?) quite functional. In fact, there's even some evidence that autistic people have more affective empathy on average, or at least they experience it more intensely. For many people with Asperger's this is perhaps the shittiest part of their condition. In social interaction they can appear quite narcissistic and lacking in empathy, but internally they feel just the same amount of guilt, sadness, or regret as 'regular' people, if not more.
trevyn 10y ago
It would be, if explicitly capturing rule sets was a thing people did in AI anymore. ;)
- zw123456 10y ago
  Capturing rule sets has not gone away, they just call it something else now.

throwaway91111 10y ago

I always thought that austic people had an abundance of empathy but dealing with that is very hard.

zw123456 10y ago
hmmm, could be I am confusing sociopathy and autism ?
- throwaway91111 10y ago
  I have no idea; some people on the autistic spectrum may have issues with it too. I guess my point is that autism seems to be about ability to handle social situations rather than the underlying reasons.
mercer 10y ago
As I understand it a distinction is made in psychology between affective empathy and cognitive empathy. Affective empathy is feeling sad when you see someone sad. Cognitive empathy is the ability to "put yourself in another's shoes", so to speak. Autistic people can come across as lacking empathy because they have difficulty with the latter, but the 'affective' form of empathy is (usually?) quite functional. In fact, there's even some evidence that autistic people have more affective empathy on average, or at least they experience it more intensely. For many people with Asperger's this is perhaps the shittiest part of their condition. In social interaction they can appear quite narcissistic and lacking in empathy, but internally they feel just the same amount of guilt, sadness, or regret as 'regular' people, if not more.

trevyn 10y ago

It would be, if explicitly capturing rule sets was a thing people did in AI anymore. ;)

zw123456 10y ago
Capturing rule sets has not gone away, they just call it something else now.