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i should have been less ambiguous, sorry -- USSID 18 is derived from EO 12333, and USSID 18 nominally provides protections to US citizens from being spied upon;

by nyolfen 10y ago

i should have been less ambiguous, sorry -- USSID 18 is derived from EO 12333, and USSID 18 nominally provides protections to US citizens from being spied upon; USSID 18 also is what has a secret interpretation by NSA lawyers that most people would probably feel is not in the spirit of the EO. here's a very nice writeup: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/primer-executive-order-12333-mass-surveillance-starlet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/primer-executive-order... section 4 outlines collection policy, beginning on page 6 of the pdf: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/1118/CLEANEDFinal%20USSID%20SP0018.pdf https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/1118/CLEANEDFinal%20USSI...

lern_too_spel 10y ago
Section 9 of that document defines "collection" to mean what you would expect it to mean.
- nyolfen 10y ago
  the issue is that there is a secret interpretation of it, as i explained in each of the above posts edit: if the term' collection' is your major gripe, i apologize -- i rewatched the video i cited and the term is actually 'intercept', not 'collect'
  - lern_too_spel 10y ago
    Why don't any of Snowden's documents confirm that they're using this interpretation and instead show that they are interpreting it as everyone else does?