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There seems to be a lot of negativity about this. They Site-1 product they make looks beautiful and is made in the US. I really applaud them for doing this and

by icc97 10y ago

There seems to be a lot of negativity about this. They Site-1 product they make looks beautiful and is made in the US. I really applaud them for doing this and I wish more companies would. Making beautiful long lasting products. If you've got a beautiful casing to the speakers you can upgrade internal components and that looks like one of the things they offer. If nothing else then hopefully this post will prevent other's with custom products that don't suit Amazon from going down that route.

jasonwatkinspdx 10y ago
The negativity is born of knowing something about speaker design. Their product is massively overpriced for what it is. "Tonewoods" are the literaly opposite of what you want in a material for speaker cabinets. For as much time as they spend bashing on cheap speakers from china, if you did a side by side comparison of their product vs other options at the same price point, you'll quickly discover the limitations of a crappy 3" full range and a dirt cheap IC amp from TI.
- icc97 10y ago
  I assume you're talking about products in the same price range that were made in China? You're trading quality of components for quality of workmanship.
  - jasonwatkinspdx 10y ago
    > I assume you're talking about products in the same price range that were made in China? Doesn't have to be China, any reasonably competent product will utterly embarrass PA's speakers. There's no avoiding physics, and a 3" full range cannot be more than it is, even if you charge $300+ for it. If you like small single driver speakers check out Mark Audio. They're an example of the sort of driver PA should be using if they actually gave a crap about sound quality. > You're trading quality of components for quality of workmanship There is no meaningful workmanship involved. My grandfather was a luthier. I've designed and built speakers. This is a massively overpriced product being marketed via rhetoric that is directly opposed to everything we know from actual, formal, research.

by icc97 10y ago

jasonwatkinspdx 10y ago

The negativity is born of knowing something about speaker design. Their product is massively overpriced for what it is. "Tonewoods" are the literaly opposite of what you want in a material for speaker cabinets. For as much time as they spend bashing on cheap speakers from china, if you did a side by side comparison of their product vs other options at the same price point, you'll quickly discover the limitations of a crappy 3" full range and a dirt cheap IC amp from TI.

icc97 10y ago
I assume you're talking about products in the same price range that were made in China? You're trading quality of components for quality of workmanship.
- jasonwatkinspdx 10y ago
  > I assume you're talking about products in the same price range that were made in China? Doesn't have to be China, any reasonably competent product will utterly embarrass PA's speakers. There's no avoiding physics, and a 3" full range cannot be more than it is, even if you charge $300+ for it. If you like small single driver speakers check out Mark Audio. They're an example of the sort of driver PA should be using if they actually gave a crap about sound quality. > You're trading quality of components for quality of workmanship There is no meaningful workmanship involved. My grandfather was a luthier. I've designed and built speakers. This is a massively overpriced product being marketed via rhetoric that is directly opposed to everything we know from actual, formal, research.