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Ask HN: Where do you see yourself in 5 years?

42 points by nodivbyzero 9y ago

Wondering where do you see yourself in 5 years? What are your IT predictions for next 5 years?

toomuchtodo 9y ago
> Wondering where do you see yourself in 5 years? No longer in tech (34 now). Sailing around the world with my family. Semi-retired. > What are your IT predictions for next 5 years? Message bots will turn out to be overrated. "AI"/machine learning won't implode, but it'll continue on in the sort of discipline as data scientists. New tools built, replacing old tools, bought out or closed down, the cycle continues. Be wary of the hype train. Life is too short to burn yourself up on things that don't matter. Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple still around, but not taking over the world. Walmart might give Amazon a run for its money if they learn to ship to customers instead of having them come to stores (postal service JV?). There's still a lot of low hanging fruit for tech companies to scoop up, but the work won't be exciting (it'll be profitable though). Learn history, so you don't repeat it. Tech is cyclic in nature, like most things in life. The key is to make hay when the sun is shining, and save for a rainy day. Or that day you decide, "I'm out".
- tostitos1979 9y ago
  Did you make FU money during the last boom? I missed it. 38 now ... don't really see a path out of the rat race.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Nope, just lived below my means and invested the surplus in equities and real estate. Didn't move to SF/BA (too expensive), didn't buy new cars, don't eat out all of the time, don't buy a new iPhone every time a new version is released, no cable, no Starbucks, etc. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/02/22/getting-rich-from-zero-to-hero-in-one-blog-post/ http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/02/22/getting-rich-from-... http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-simple-math-behind-early-retirement/ http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-sim... With ~$600k in investment assets, you'll generate ~$24k/year in dividends. A family of three traveling the world via sailboat can comfortably live on that (note I mentioned "semi-retired"; I still plan on doing consulting occasionally when I require topping up the freedom chips account).
    - vitaminbandit 9y ago
      You've done great, man. Very admirable.
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        Super appreciative of the kind words, but I'm not here to humblebrag. I'm showing the numbers because all of you can do this. Freedom is attainable, as long as your expectations as to what makes you happy is reasonable (time with family and friends, not a Lambo and every other weekend on Miami Beach).
    - wyc 9y ago
      Your transparency is really appreciated. Wishing you well!!
    - kcorbitt 9y ago
      I wish everyone in the developed world understood and internalized this perspective. That goes double for software engineers, who are well-paid relative to the median wage almost anywhere in the world. The rat race is totally opt-in. If you're getting paid as a software engineer in the USA[1] and you're making market rate for where you live, you can easily save >>50% of your salary and retire in 10 years. And really, what you're buying with those savings are options. If you love what you're doing, no one will force you to quit once you've accumulated FU money. For me personally, even money says I keep on working in my same career with little change. But the point is that it then becomes my decision, not something imposed on me. It changes your perspective (and stress level). [1]: The US is an unusually good place for software engineers from this perspective: by moving from London back to Seattle I was able to nearly double my market rate while modestly lowering my cost of living. But even in London, it was possible to save a substantial fraction of each paycheck.
      - hkmurakami 9y ago
        I'm wondering how such a person will cope with unexpected medical expenses in old age that aren't covered by medicare. As a US citizen, perhaps immigrating to a country with universal health care is a necessity. Come to think of it, the rat race really is a fear driven thing. Fear of not having health care when you need it, fear of not having retirement income, fear of keeping up pretenses of "success" vs your peers and classmates, etc.
dejv 9y ago
It will be more or less the same. New frameworks, languages and what not will show up with huge hype and then disappear in next few months or few years. Vast majority of black matter developers will continue with writing enterprise CRUD apps in Java or C#. For myself, application that I am maintaining will turn 30 years old (Delphi 5 app) and I will probably continue working on supporting few more Rails apps as well. Oh and vineyard I planted this week, will finally give me first harvest.
lifesuck123 9y ago
probably in the cemetery.
philippz 9y ago
I will be preparing STOMT for IPO. AR/VR will be on the hype and it's getting easier to develop AR layers. Advertising has founds its way into it.
mathperson 9y ago
Graduating grad school hopefully. Hopefully will have sweet abs and a bunch of publications and a post doc lined up.
franze 9y ago
In the mirror.
mindcrime 9y ago
If all goes well, within 5 years Fogbeam Labs will be generating revenue, to a point that I can quit my current job and work on running Fogbeam full time.
- benburleson 9y ago
  I was curious enough to google it, and my unsolicited feedback: After skimming your site for 2 minutes I have no idea what you're trying to sell. I assume I'm not the audience you're targeting.
  - somecallitblues 9y ago
    Same here. Also neddick is very close to "needdick". Maybe it's a purposeful word play.
    - mindcrime 9y ago
      Heh... no, never considered that association before. It's just the name of a lighthouse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Neddick_Light https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Neddick_Light
  - mindcrime 9y ago
    Yeah, the site needs some work. It hasn't been a top priority for us lately because the products themselves are still pretty far from where we want them. That said, I have a TODO on my list to rewrite a lot of the verbiage on the webpage, create explainer videos, etc. It's just a question of time and resources. That said, it may also be that you just aren't in the target market. The products we sell are all tools for enterprise knowledge management, search and collaboration. Think "alternative to Jive Sofware products" or "alternative to Yammer", etc. If those terms mean nothing to you, then you're definitely not in the target market.
    - jetti 9y ago
      Just FYI, your site is down now. I'm getting a 404 when I try to navigate to http://www.fogbeam.com/ http://www.fogbeam.com/
thebiglebrewski 9y ago
This is a good chance for some self-reflection! I'd like to be living somewhere with better weather than New York City. Also with more outdoor and recreational opportunities. I get really, really depressed every year between like December and April except for skiing and 1 or 2 other winter activities that keep me going. But the dreariness and hibernating bother the f*ck out of me. Yes, I know it's all about what you wear out and not the weather but really...it's not, at least for me. I'd imagine that I'll be married to my current girlfriend. I love her deeply and it seems like that's the path I'm going to take at this time <3. As far as work - it would be really cool if it was cyclical. Spend 2 or 3 months on, 2 or 3 months off. Working on writing code and making things happen for myself or other people. Have enough in the bank to work only when I have to only on projects I care about but still own the house I've always wanted to. Speaking of that, I'd also either like to have bought the land and started envisioning or to have actually built by dream home, a modern house that's kind of like the one from Ex Machina, in nature and completely automated! Cliche, I know. In an ideal world, I'd be working in some capacity to get us off this rock. Kind of hard to transition from web dev to space though, I think? Haven't tried it yet, might be time to soon. All of the above is said knowing that I already have a much better life than most and I'm not really entitled to more, but I'll work for it and try to get it like any other human. As far as IT - I agree with a commenter below. It's cyclical and not too much will be new. I do think something will have begun taking more of a foothold that will replace mobile phones, either AR or VR based. Otherwise probably not too much will change. Which is sad because progress is just too slow for me.
- nunez 9y ago
  Hey! I was you last year. Hated NYC for a long time but feared getting out. I eventually cracked and just started looking for jobs in the DFW area. Took me about three months, but we made it and are getting married next year! It's possible!
  - thebiglebrewski 9y ago
    Thanks for the reply! What made you choose Dallas Fort Worth? Where are you and your wife from? Congrats on the move!
milquetoastaf 9y ago
i'm going to be so high because a) my state just legalized and b) my partner is in the process of starting a farm :)
BlackjackCF 9y ago
Hopefully still in software. Maybe working and expanding my side project and turning it into a viable business. I won't be upset whatever happens.
tmaly 9y ago
I see myself creating something of value or trying. I missed out on the last boom, but I still think there is plenty of opportunity still here.
PrimalPlasma 9y ago
Big jump in AI software development. I can't wait.
kzisme 9y ago
I'd be interested to see where my current company is at in five years. The growth has been pretty impressive - but I'm wondering which employees will still be around (if they take care of their employees enough to keep them around) Aside from that I'd like to be working in/on a different stack so I'm still learning. Ideally I'll find an OSS project to work on when I can, or start an interesting side project of my own.
mod 9y ago
I see myself living in a new home that I built myself. I see myself living on primarily 'passive' income from past investments--an established B&M business, mostly (it's 7 years old now), and hopefully a side-project will be generating some 'lifestyle' revenue by then. I see myself building out a more self-sustainable lifestyle where I live, with some things like a greenhouse, small livestock (rabbits and chickens). I see myself building systems to make these also as passive as possible. I see myself with a young child, easily the most exciting prospect. All of these things are already on course, so I'm not just daydreaming! Tech predictions: Who knows? In 5 years I don't expect a major shift. Mostly just a massive pile of javascript libraries. I think FB will start a downward descent which ends in them being dethroned. The current ecosystem of FB & Google knowing every intimate detail about us is not sustainable.
taway_1212 9y ago
My saving will be at (or near) FU money level, so I'll either work less or work on stuff that pays less but is more interesting (robotics maybe?).
hkmurakami 9y ago
In my younger years, I had a neatly mapped out plan of what I'd be doing in 5, 10, 15 years. I'm in my 30's now and I've come to realize that it's nice to have a plan so you can test out the waters, but just as important is to adjust to the new information you acquire every year about both yourself and the world (I didn't do this well at all in my 20's). So I really have no idea what I'll be doing in 5 years. It'll likely have something to do with technology, and it'll be something that interests me and find to be worthwhile (for me personally, that means Snapchat-like things are a nonstarter), with smart and pleasant colleagues.
Boothroid 9y ago
I won't be in a position to say FU but will hopefully have the flexibility to spend a little more time staring at the sky rather than at pixels. In contrast to other posters that expect more of the same in IT, I think we could see the start of a drastic change in hardware towards heterogeneous processing e.g. merging of processors and memory, more integration of specialised components e.g. DSP, FPGA, with CPU as coordinator rather than main focus. It's already starting to happen.
baccredited 9y ago
Financial Independence (FI) achieved and DONE working for other people by end of 2021. Pursuing my own projects and making a bigger dent in the universe.
comboy 9y ago
Looks like many people are hoping for the FU money. If you are living in SF, you have FU money already. It's just a matter of the choice of your lifestyle. And you only need to consider those comfortable ones. I'd say if you don't enjoy coding, stop right away. If you're smart (and there's a good chance you are if you're coding), you will easily make a living. Possibly doing something that brings you pleasure. If you do enjoy it, why would you plan to stop.
TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
> Wondering where do you see yourself in 5 years? Some sort of low-level healthcare job. I'm in school for IT and almost have my bachelor's degree, but I don't live in a tech city and am unable to move. Centralization of remaining jobs combined with outsourcing of lower-level jobs means I'm having a really tough time even starting my career. I'm going to complete my degree, but I'm not hopeful of my prospects. > What are your IT predictions for next 5 years? I'd bet centralization of remaining jobs and further outsourcing may drop wages for the workers, and corporations alone will be the ones to benefit from this streamlining. Many industries on the web are winner-take-all(see youtube, facebook, reddit), and I see no indication that this trend will continue.
nunez 9y ago
i'm currently 29. 34. tech sales. still in dfw. larger network of interesting, influential people. >$215k base, more total. (still) happily married while giving my wife the option of not working or pursuing whatever she wants while i run the cash flow (hence that number as i am unwilling to compromise our current lifestyle). done with student loans and car loans, though i plan on leasing one and opening another loan on another. i like cars. maybe a house. real estate is confusing and sounds like way more work than i want to do. reits seem easier. unsure about kids. we are leaning on no. of course all of this is subject to change, and I have approximate models of what these scenarios look like financially. but that's the vision for now --- five year predictions: ar will be everywhere and on everything, especially clothes and on your face. i see apple pioneering this space. google has the brain power but lacks the focus and ability to execute. AR ads will be nascent but a HUGE untapped market; this is what will finally make facebook usurp google. it's all about execution and google is just too neurotic with their go to markets. hopefully they will correct this. VR headsets will get smaller and cheaper as hardware always does. VR movies will follow suit shortly since it adds so much more depth for telling stories with. iOS + vdi = end of the laptop, hence why apple is super bullish on ipad Pro and slightly bearish on their mb's and desktop lines. the future is mobile, 100% ford and gm will beat tesla at self driving by miles; they are slower but have super tight manufacturing and product workflows that tesla will have trouble matching at cost. which is still fine for them because they will provide the shovels (batteries) and will make tons doing it somebody will figure out unikernels. they will become huge. linux in a binary. what a time to be alive. i can't wait; think of the absolutely insane density this can provide. brick and mortar retail will continue to transition into real estate and amazon will continue to pick up the scraps. the writing was on the wall for a LOOOOOOONG time (barnes and noble/borders, anyone?) and the big retailers did nothing. too little too late for most.

42 points by nodivbyzero 9y ago

Wondering where do you see yourself in 5 years? What are your IT predictions for next 5 years?

> Wondering where do you see yourself in 5 years? No longer in tech (34 now). Sailing around the world with my family. Semi-retired. > What are your IT predictions for next 5 years? Message bots will turn out to be overrated. "AI"/machine learning won't implode, but it'll continue on in the sort of discipline as data scientists. New tools built, replacing old tools, bought out or closed down, the cycle continues. Be wary of the hype train. Life is too short to burn yourself up on things that don't matter. Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple still around, but not taking over the world. Walmart might give Amazon a run for its money if they learn to ship to customers instead of having them come to stores (postal service JV?). There's still a lot of low hanging fruit for tech companies to scoop up, but the work won't be exciting (it'll be profitable though). Learn history, so you don't repeat it. Tech is cyclic in nature, like most things in life. The key is to make hay when the sun is shining, and save for a rainy day. Or that day you decide, "I'm out".

tostitos1979 9y ago
Did you make FU money during the last boom? I missed it. 38 now ... don't really see a path out of the rat race.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Nope, just lived below my means and invested the surplus in equities and real estate. Didn't move to SF/BA (too expensive), didn't buy new cars, don't eat out all of the time, don't buy a new iPhone every time a new version is released, no cable, no Starbucks, etc. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/02/22/getting-rich-from-zero-to-hero-in-one-blog-post/ http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/02/22/getting-rich-from-... http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-simple-math-behind-early-retirement/ http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-sim... With ~$600k in investment assets, you'll generate ~$24k/year in dividends. A family of three traveling the world via sailboat can comfortably live on that (note I mentioned "semi-retired"; I still plan on doing consulting occasionally when I require topping up the freedom chips account).
  - vitaminbandit 9y ago
    You've done great, man. Very admirable.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      Super appreciative of the kind words, but I'm not here to humblebrag. I'm showing the numbers because all of you can do this. Freedom is attainable, as long as your expectations as to what makes you happy is reasonable (time with family and friends, not a Lambo and every other weekend on Miami Beach).
  - wyc 9y ago
    Your transparency is really appreciated. Wishing you well!!
  - kcorbitt 9y ago
    I wish everyone in the developed world understood and internalized this perspective. That goes double for software engineers, who are well-paid relative to the median wage almost anywhere in the world. The rat race is totally opt-in. If you're getting paid as a software engineer in the USA[1] and you're making market rate for where you live, you can easily save >>50% of your salary and retire in 10 years. And really, what you're buying with those savings are options. If you love what you're doing, no one will force you to quit once you've accumulated FU money. For me personally, even money says I keep on working in my same career with little change. But the point is that it then becomes my decision, not something imposed on me. It changes your perspective (and stress level). [1]: The US is an unusually good place for software engineers from this perspective: by moving from London back to Seattle I was able to nearly double my market rate while modestly lowering my cost of living. But even in London, it was possible to save a substantial fraction of each paycheck.
    - hkmurakami 9y ago
      I'm wondering how such a person will cope with unexpected medical expenses in old age that aren't covered by medicare. As a US citizen, perhaps immigrating to a country with universal health care is a necessity. Come to think of it, the rat race really is a fear driven thing. Fear of not having health care when you need it, fear of not having retirement income, fear of keeping up pretenses of "success" vs your peers and classmates, etc.

dejv 9y ago

It will be more or less the same. New frameworks, languages and what not will show up with huge hype and then disappear in next few months or few years. Vast majority of black matter developers will continue with writing enterprise CRUD apps in Java or C#. For myself, application that I am maintaining will turn 30 years old (Delphi 5 app) and I will probably continue working on supporting few more Rails apps as well. Oh and vineyard I planted this week, will finally give me first harvest.

lifesuck123 9y ago

probably in the cemetery.

philippz 9y ago

I will be preparing STOMT for IPO. AR/VR will be on the hype and it's getting easier to develop AR layers. Advertising has founds its way into it.

mathperson 9y ago

Graduating grad school hopefully. Hopefully will have sweet abs and a bunch of publications and a post doc lined up.

franze 9y ago

In the mirror.

mindcrime 9y ago

If all goes well, within 5 years Fogbeam Labs will be generating revenue, to a point that I can quit my current job and work on running Fogbeam full time.

benburleson 9y ago
I was curious enough to google it, and my unsolicited feedback: After skimming your site for 2 minutes I have no idea what you're trying to sell. I assume I'm not the audience you're targeting.
- somecallitblues 9y ago
  Same here. Also neddick is very close to "needdick". Maybe it's a purposeful word play.
  - mindcrime 9y ago
    Heh... no, never considered that association before. It's just the name of a lighthouse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Neddick_Light https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Neddick_Light
- mindcrime 9y ago
  Yeah, the site needs some work. It hasn't been a top priority for us lately because the products themselves are still pretty far from where we want them. That said, I have a TODO on my list to rewrite a lot of the verbiage on the webpage, create explainer videos, etc. It's just a question of time and resources. That said, it may also be that you just aren't in the target market. The products we sell are all tools for enterprise knowledge management, search and collaboration. Think "alternative to Jive Sofware products" or "alternative to Yammer", etc. If those terms mean nothing to you, then you're definitely not in the target market.
  - jetti 9y ago
    Just FYI, your site is down now. I'm getting a 404 when I try to navigate to http://www.fogbeam.com/ http://www.fogbeam.com/

thebiglebrewski 9y ago

This is a good chance for some self-reflection! I'd like to be living somewhere with better weather than New York City. Also with more outdoor and recreational opportunities. I get really, really depressed every year between like December and April except for skiing and 1 or 2 other winter activities that keep me going. But the dreariness and hibernating bother the f*ck out of me. Yes, I know it's all about what you wear out and not the weather but really...it's not, at least for me. I'd imagine that I'll be married to my current girlfriend. I love her deeply and it seems like that's the path I'm going to take at this time <3. As far as work - it would be really cool if it was cyclical. Spend 2 or 3 months on, 2 or 3 months off. Working on writing code and making things happen for myself or other people. Have enough in the bank to work only when I have to only on projects I care about but still own the house I've always wanted to. Speaking of that, I'd also either like to have bought the land and started envisioning or to have actually built by dream home, a modern house that's kind of like the one from Ex Machina, in nature and completely automated! Cliche, I know. In an ideal world, I'd be working in some capacity to get us off this rock. Kind of hard to transition from web dev to space though, I think? Haven't tried it yet, might be time to soon. All of the above is said knowing that I already have a much better life than most and I'm not really entitled to more, but I'll work for it and try to get it like any other human. As far as IT - I agree with a commenter below. It's cyclical and not too much will be new. I do think something will have begun taking more of a foothold that will replace mobile phones, either AR or VR based. Otherwise probably not too much will change. Which is sad because progress is just too slow for me.

nunez 9y ago
Hey! I was you last year. Hated NYC for a long time but feared getting out. I eventually cracked and just started looking for jobs in the DFW area. Took me about three months, but we made it and are getting married next year! It's possible!
- thebiglebrewski 9y ago
  Thanks for the reply! What made you choose Dallas Fort Worth? Where are you and your wife from? Congrats on the move!

milquetoastaf 9y ago

i'm going to be so high because a) my state just legalized and b) my partner is in the process of starting a farm :)

BlackjackCF 9y ago

Hopefully still in software. Maybe working and expanding my side project and turning it into a viable business. I won't be upset whatever happens.

tmaly 9y ago

I see myself creating something of value or trying. I missed out on the last boom, but I still think there is plenty of opportunity still here.

PrimalPlasma 9y ago

Big jump in AI software development. I can't wait.

kzisme 9y ago

I'd be interested to see where my current company is at in five years. The growth has been pretty impressive - but I'm wondering which employees will still be around (if they take care of their employees enough to keep them around) Aside from that I'd like to be working in/on a different stack so I'm still learning. Ideally I'll find an OSS project to work on when I can, or start an interesting side project of my own.

mod 9y ago

I see myself living in a new home that I built myself. I see myself living on primarily 'passive' income from past investments--an established B&M business, mostly (it's 7 years old now), and hopefully a side-project will be generating some 'lifestyle' revenue by then. I see myself building out a more self-sustainable lifestyle where I live, with some things like a greenhouse, small livestock (rabbits and chickens). I see myself building systems to make these also as passive as possible. I see myself with a young child, easily the most exciting prospect. All of these things are already on course, so I'm not just daydreaming! Tech predictions: Who knows? In 5 years I don't expect a major shift. Mostly just a massive pile of javascript libraries. I think FB will start a downward descent which ends in them being dethroned. The current ecosystem of FB & Google knowing every intimate detail about us is not sustainable.

taway_1212 9y ago

My saving will be at (or near) FU money level, so I'll either work less or work on stuff that pays less but is more interesting (robotics maybe?).

hkmurakami 9y ago

In my younger years, I had a neatly mapped out plan of what I'd be doing in 5, 10, 15 years. I'm in my 30's now and I've come to realize that it's nice to have a plan so you can test out the waters, but just as important is to adjust to the new information you acquire every year about both yourself and the world (I didn't do this well at all in my 20's). So I really have no idea what I'll be doing in 5 years. It'll likely have something to do with technology, and it'll be something that interests me and find to be worthwhile (for me personally, that means Snapchat-like things are a nonstarter), with smart and pleasant colleagues.

Boothroid 9y ago

I won't be in a position to say FU but will hopefully have the flexibility to spend a little more time staring at the sky rather than at pixels. In contrast to other posters that expect more of the same in IT, I think we could see the start of a drastic change in hardware towards heterogeneous processing e.g. merging of processors and memory, more integration of specialised components e.g. DSP, FPGA, with CPU as coordinator rather than main focus. It's already starting to happen.

baccredited 9y ago

Financial Independence (FI) achieved and DONE working for other people by end of 2021. Pursuing my own projects and making a bigger dent in the universe.

comboy 9y ago

Looks like many people are hoping for the FU money. If you are living in SF, you have FU money already. It's just a matter of the choice of your lifestyle. And you only need to consider those comfortable ones. I'd say if you don't enjoy coding, stop right away. If you're smart (and there's a good chance you are if you're coding), you will easily make a living. Possibly doing something that brings you pleasure. If you do enjoy it, why would you plan to stop.

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago

> Wondering where do you see yourself in 5 years? Some sort of low-level healthcare job. I'm in school for IT and almost have my bachelor's degree, but I don't live in a tech city and am unable to move. Centralization of remaining jobs combined with outsourcing of lower-level jobs means I'm having a really tough time even starting my career. I'm going to complete my degree, but I'm not hopeful of my prospects. > What are your IT predictions for next 5 years? I'd bet centralization of remaining jobs and further outsourcing may drop wages for the workers, and corporations alone will be the ones to benefit from this streamlining. Many industries on the web are winner-take-all(see youtube, facebook, reddit), and I see no indication that this trend will continue.

nunez 9y ago

i'm currently 29. 34. tech sales. still in dfw. larger network of interesting, influential people. >$215k base, more total. (still) happily married while giving my wife the option of not working or pursuing whatever she wants while i run the cash flow (hence that number as i am unwilling to compromise our current lifestyle). done with student loans and car loans, though i plan on leasing one and opening another loan on another. i like cars. maybe a house. real estate is confusing and sounds like way more work than i want to do. reits seem easier. unsure about kids. we are leaning on no. of course all of this is subject to change, and I have approximate models of what these scenarios look like financially. but that's the vision for now --- five year predictions: ar will be everywhere and on everything, especially clothes and on your face. i see apple pioneering this space. google has the brain power but lacks the focus and ability to execute. AR ads will be nascent but a HUGE untapped market; this is what will finally make facebook usurp google. it's all about execution and google is just too neurotic with their go to markets. hopefully they will correct this. VR headsets will get smaller and cheaper as hardware always does. VR movies will follow suit shortly since it adds so much more depth for telling stories with. iOS + vdi = end of the laptop, hence why apple is super bullish on ipad Pro and slightly bearish on their mb's and desktop lines. the future is mobile, 100% ford and gm will beat tesla at self driving by miles; they are slower but have super tight manufacturing and product workflows that tesla will have trouble matching at cost. which is still fine for them because they will provide the shovels (batteries) and will make tons doing it somebody will figure out unikernels. they will become huge. linux in a binary. what a time to be alive. i can't wait; think of the absolutely insane density this can provide. brick and mortar retail will continue to transition into real estate and amazon will continue to pick up the scraps. the writing was on the wall for a LOOOOOOONG time (barnes and noble/borders, anyone?) and the big retailers did nothing. too little too late for most.