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why do we need to give up religion .. in modern society? this modern society thinking.. seems like a religion in itself

iratewizard 9y ago
Would having fewer people who use religion to define themselves reduce the "Us vs Them" mentality in your opinion? Is a sizable portion of the world ready to give their life up -- like dedicate it to spreading or supporting an ideology -- in hopes that they will live again? If people were less confident that there was an afterlife safety net, how might their behavior change? Now, that's just the surface of religion. Religions are directly associated with systematic problems in society. Child molesters en masse hiding behind the Vatican to continue molesting. The process of belief being pretty well catalogued as addictive and mentally damaging. Has the "Days since last jihadist attack in Europe" counter risen above 7 this year? Are there any religions that don't suffer from all of the symptoms of groupthink? I don't know exactly what you mean by "modern society thinking" because it's somewhat vague - but I think your sentiment is right. What we don't need is a movement towards ending religion or endless propaganda telling everyone to get with the times and abandon religion. Just some critical thinking.
- systems 9y ago
  the term 'modern society' refers to a set a values, that presumably makes this society moderns any set of values, that you have to stick to, to be part of the 'group' .. is very much a religion .. or religion-like, if we limit the term religion to only sets or values/rules that link themselves to God or a divine force i think religion as in, set of guidelines to have or that describe a relationship with God .. doesn't necessarily contradict with progress .. or modernism
  - iratewizard 9y ago
    I can definitely agree with that. China is a great example of different but the same. For the most part an atheist country but one of the most superstitious in the world. A result of there superstition likely being much higher suicide rates stemming from the belief of reincarnation (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205909/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205909/).

Would having fewer people who use religion to define themselves reduce the "Us vs Them" mentality in your opinion? Is a sizable portion of the world ready to give their life up -- like dedicate it to spreading or supporting an ideology -- in hopes that they will live again? If people were less confident that there was an afterlife safety net, how might their behavior change? Now, that's just the surface of religion. Religions are directly associated with systematic problems in society. Child molesters en masse hiding behind the Vatican to continue molesting. The process of belief being pretty well catalogued as addictive and mentally damaging. Has the "Days since last jihadist attack in Europe" counter risen above 7 this year? Are there any religions that don't suffer from all of the symptoms of groupthink? I don't know exactly what you mean by "modern society thinking" because it's somewhat vague - but I think your sentiment is right. What we don't need is a movement towards ending religion or endless propaganda telling everyone to get with the times and abandon religion. Just some critical thinking.

systems 9y ago
the term 'modern society' refers to a set a values, that presumably makes this society moderns any set of values, that you have to stick to, to be part of the 'group' .. is very much a religion .. or religion-like, if we limit the term religion to only sets or values/rules that link themselves to God or a divine force i think religion as in, set of guidelines to have or that describe a relationship with God .. doesn't necessarily contradict with progress .. or modernism
- iratewizard 9y ago
  I can definitely agree with that. China is a great example of different but the same. For the most part an atheist country but one of the most superstitious in the world. A result of there superstition likely being much higher suicide rates stemming from the belief of reincarnation (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205909/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205909/).