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Yeah, take a fetus out of a living being and stick it in a plastic bag to incubate. How could anyone possibly think that's weird or unnatural?

by xienze 10y ago

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
And? "Unnatural" describes our entire existence - living in houses, eating food we raised, wearing clothes, taking medicines. To be honest, 'nature' is that thing that constantly tries to kill us. I think its hilarious that folks pursue 'natural' foods and lifestyles, thinking its somehow better.
- xienze 10y ago
  Those are all habits that developed organically over centuries based on our desire to live and lead happy, fulfilling lifestyles. This is a brand-new procedure that just a couple years ago would be written about in a sci-fi novel. Perhaps you can understand how someone might think it's a little strange.
  - stanfordkid 10y ago
    We have no clue as to how various chemicals released by the mother affect the newborn psychologically. Would probably not be able to predict the effects for over 10-20 years. I'm worried we might end up with sociopathic kids. It's been shown in many animals that the mother does not bond with the newborn without oxytocin release from childbirth.
    - dpark 10y ago
      > It's been shown in many animals that the mother does not bond with the newborn without oxytocin release from childbirth. 1. Citation needed. 2. Not relevant to humans unless you are also going to assert that fathers and adopted mothers fail to bond.
- apocalypstyx 10y ago
  Birds nests and termite mounds. Ants invented farming and animal domestication (and slavery) before humans evolved as a species (certain strains of fungus have gone extinct in nature and only still remain because of their cultivation. Hermit crabs. And a few years ago (can't remember where at the moment) it was shown animals self-medicate when sick by instinctually eating certain plants they would otherwise not consume. You're not in traffic. You are traffic.
  - lawless123 10y ago
    Either nothing is Natural or everything is.

Yeah, take a fetus out of a living being and stick it in a plastic bag to incubate. How could anyone possibly think that's weird or unnatural?

by xienze 10y ago

Yeah, take a fetus out of a living being and stick it in a plastic bag to incubate. How could anyone possibly think that's weird or unnatural?

JoeAltmaier 10y ago

And? "Unnatural" describes our entire existence - living in houses, eating food we raised, wearing clothes, taking medicines. To be honest, 'nature' is that thing that constantly tries to kill us. I think its hilarious that folks pursue 'natural' foods and lifestyles, thinking its somehow better.

xienze 10y ago
Those are all habits that developed organically over centuries based on our desire to live and lead happy, fulfilling lifestyles. This is a brand-new procedure that just a couple years ago would be written about in a sci-fi novel. Perhaps you can understand how someone might think it's a little strange.
- stanfordkid 10y ago
  We have no clue as to how various chemicals released by the mother affect the newborn psychologically. Would probably not be able to predict the effects for over 10-20 years. I'm worried we might end up with sociopathic kids. It's been shown in many animals that the mother does not bond with the newborn without oxytocin release from childbirth.
  - dpark 10y ago
    > It's been shown in many animals that the mother does not bond with the newborn without oxytocin release from childbirth. 1. Citation needed. 2. Not relevant to humans unless you are also going to assert that fathers and adopted mothers fail to bond.
apocalypstyx 10y ago
Birds nests and termite mounds. Ants invented farming and animal domestication (and slavery) before humans evolved as a species (certain strains of fungus have gone extinct in nature and only still remain because of their cultivation. Hermit crabs. And a few years ago (can't remember where at the moment) it was shown animals self-medicate when sick by instinctually eating certain plants they would otherwise not consume. You're not in traffic. You are traffic.
- lawless123 10y ago
  Either nothing is Natural or everything is.