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Yada yada. Heart that so many times and it is crap. Only because i work better than some avg and my output satisfies you, you pay me for working 8 hours and n

by sigi45 10y ago

Yada yada. Heart that so many times and it is crap. Only because i work better than some avg and my output satisfies you, you pay me for working 8 hours and not for something else. I'm going home after 8 hours regardless if i'm done with a task i thought i will finish, why should i leave/slack after 4 hours for a task someone thought it would take 8 hours?

bkkssnn 10y ago
You are far above average if you can be in "the zone" for 8h a day. The rest of us will just have to "slack" while you do the hard work.
zzalpha 10y ago
you pay me for working 8 hours and not for something else. Actually, if you're a salaried employee and not being paid hourly, that's objectively false. A salaried employee is paid to ... Well, it's up to the employment contract to decide. Personally, if I hire someone on salary I expect them to estimate level of effort honestly to the best of their ability and complete work at a rate I consider acceptable. If I lowball that expectation that's really my problem. And the reality is most employees would be dissatisfied with that situation, because most people want to do meaningful and challenging work. So if someone completes their assignments early and ends up filling their time with side projects, it's because I've failed to give them work that challenges them. The only thing I expect from the employee is that they tell me when they're done so I know what's going on and can decide what I want to do about it (and that should mean working with them to give them more satisfying work so they don't leave out of boredom).
WrtCdEvrydy 10y ago
> I'm going home after 8 hours Because you don't have competent technical management. My team comes and goes as they see fit, we have the highest profitability margins of any of our departments so noone in HR bothers to tell me anything. Edit: However, with that comes 3AM phone calls where I expect them to act like adults and do what needs to be done, so I'm not perfect by any means.

by sigi45 10y ago

bkkssnn 10y ago

You are far above average if you can be in "the zone" for 8h a day. The rest of us will just have to "slack" while you do the hard work.

zzalpha 10y ago

you pay me for working 8 hours and not for something else. Actually, if you're a salaried employee and not being paid hourly, that's objectively false. A salaried employee is paid to ... Well, it's up to the employment contract to decide. Personally, if I hire someone on salary I expect them to estimate level of effort honestly to the best of their ability and complete work at a rate I consider acceptable. If I lowball that expectation that's really my problem. And the reality is most employees would be dissatisfied with that situation, because most people want to do meaningful and challenging work. So if someone completes their assignments early and ends up filling their time with side projects, it's because I've failed to give them work that challenges them. The only thing I expect from the employee is that they tell me when they're done so I know what's going on and can decide what I want to do about it (and that should mean working with them to give them more satisfying work so they don't leave out of boredom).

WrtCdEvrydy 10y ago

> I'm going home after 8 hours Because you don't have competent technical management. My team comes and goes as they see fit, we have the highest profitability margins of any of our departments so noone in HR bothers to tell me anything. Edit: However, with that comes 3AM phone calls where I expect them to act like adults and do what needs to be done, so I'm not perfect by any means.