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You should fire them if they're not providing you the value your paying them for. That's it. It's frankly immaterial if they're working on their side project a

by ryandvm 10y ago

You should fire them if they're not providing you the value your paying them for. That's it. It's frankly immaterial if they're working on their side project at work. That may be part of what recharges them mentally. Which in the end, works out in your favor.

donatj 10y ago
This. When I have a big project at work I would also take a small one to recharge mentally as well and switch back and forth. We got new management and they saw this as us wasting time on the big project and declared we can only have one project assigned at a time. Genius, so now when I need a mental break I'm not allowed to work on things that benefit the company. This lowered overall productivity and lead to either daylighting or just general time wasting.
jjeaff 10y ago
This is exactly my stance. I pay my employees to help get stuff done. If they can get enough done in 1 hour a week to make it worth it for me, then so be it. If not, there is a line out the door of people who want to work remote and have that freedom and they will work harder for the same salary. To expect any more out of a salaried employee to me is childish and petty. Be an adult and make the calculation based on what the market will bear. If someone isn't producing quality work fast enough, talk to them and explain that they aren't earning their keep and either need to step up their game or prepare to exit ... and we can still be friends. I have spent too much time outperforming idiot cofounders who didn't do anything but watch me and complain that I didn't put in enough hours in the office regardless of the fact that I actually got things done and brought knowledge and experience to the table that moved things forward in a profound way. I don't have to work as hard as "you" now, because I spent my adolescence building saas businesses instead of playing sports from the time school was out until 3am every day. So I extend that same courtesy to anyone who can make things happen and I don't care how long it took you in the moment.

by ryandvm 10y ago

donatj 10y ago

This. When I have a big project at work I would also take a small one to recharge mentally as well and switch back and forth. We got new management and they saw this as us wasting time on the big project and declared we can only have one project assigned at a time. Genius, so now when I need a mental break I'm not allowed to work on things that benefit the company. This lowered overall productivity and lead to either daylighting or just general time wasting.

jjeaff 10y ago

This is exactly my stance. I pay my employees to help get stuff done. If they can get enough done in 1 hour a week to make it worth it for me, then so be it. If not, there is a line out the door of people who want to work remote and have that freedom and they will work harder for the same salary. To expect any more out of a salaried employee to me is childish and petty. Be an adult and make the calculation based on what the market will bear. If someone isn't producing quality work fast enough, talk to them and explain that they aren't earning their keep and either need to step up their game or prepare to exit ... and we can still be friends. I have spent too much time outperforming idiot cofounders who didn't do anything but watch me and complain that I didn't put in enough hours in the office regardless of the fact that I actually got things done and brought knowledge and experience to the table that moved things forward in a profound way. I don't have to work as hard as "you" now, because I spent my adolescence building saas businesses instead of playing sports from the time school was out until 3am every day. So I extend that same courtesy to anyone who can make things happen and I don't care how long it took you in the moment.