> That doesn't mean that public criticism of this is propaganda. I completely agree. The problem is, and my point was, how does one distinguish a reasonable pe

> That doesn't mean that public criticism of this is propaganda. I completely agree. The problem is, and my point was, how does one distinguish a reasonable person speaking in good faith from propaganda, which by its nature is intended to appear as a reasonable person speaking in good faith - and which most often is spread not directly by propagandists but by reasonable people who trust the good faith of the propagandist? Anyway, I think we talked about it plenty above; I just thought your well-made points deserved a response here.