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Interesting. So an attacker can just get someone's info, then schedule an appointment and pretend to be that person? Seems like this could be blocked just by ha

Interesting. So an attacker can just get someone's info, then schedule an appointment and pretend to be that person? Seems like this could be blocked just by having the health companies keep a photo on file and verifying it before anything expensive. And are there lots of cases of people stealing ID just to get medical care? That's both sad and pretty interesting. Do they catch a lot of people trying this? Even $1200 for a "kitz" sounds like a great deal given the cost of US medical services. I'd guess there's a fairly low risk of getting caught once you leave the hospital.

nommm-nommm 10y ago
Most doctors ask for ID now. Even as recent as 10 years ago that was a rare practice. So, yes, it was possible to get medical services under someone else's name and even possible to execute an illegal adoption that way; I have a cousin (in his 30s now) who was "adopted" like that. My aunt was unable to have children but really wanted them, she also had a minor criminal record and wasn't well off financially so she'd never be able to legally adopt. One of her friends had an unwanted pregnancy. Aunt convinced friend to give birth assuming my aunt's name and my aunt took the baby home.
- MichaelGG 10y ago
  But if you show the doctor a fake drivers license you're set, right? I mean, the doctor/insurance company isn't verifying your ID against their records.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    >But if you show the doctor a fake drivers license you're set, right? Right. Fake ID and fake insurance card would work just fine.
- brilliantcode 10y ago
  How is your friend taking the news? I can't imagine the level of sadness at the thought of your own biological birth mother giving you up like that. Freud says they go through their whole life trying to avoid abandonment. I'd imagine the sadness easily turning into some sort of aimless wrath. It's like being told you've lived a lie to save birthgiver's face. Maybe that's what happened to Paul Le Roux when he found out he was not only adopted but that they didn't even bother giving it a name.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    Um...wtf? Are you replying to the right post? What news? It was never a secret, my cousin always knew he was adopted and nobody was ever sad. The situation is exactly like any other adoption just was informal in that it didn't involve the government. It worked out very well for everyone involved. Adoption happens every single day.
    - brilliantcode 10y ago
      still must be a pretty shitty feeling your own biological mother didn't want you which is evidenced by the fact that his mother gave him up because he was unwanted. regardless of transparency, it must put a ton of subconscious burden on your friend whether he admits it or not. https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/psychological-issues-faced-by-adopted-children-and-adults/ https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/psychological-issues-fac...

nommm-nommm 10y ago

Most doctors ask for ID now. Even as recent as 10 years ago that was a rare practice. So, yes, it was possible to get medical services under someone else's name and even possible to execute an illegal adoption that way; I have a cousin (in his 30s now) who was "adopted" like that. My aunt was unable to have children but really wanted them, she also had a minor criminal record and wasn't well off financially so she'd never be able to legally adopt. One of her friends had an unwanted pregnancy. Aunt convinced friend to give birth assuming my aunt's name and my aunt took the baby home.

MichaelGG 10y ago
But if you show the doctor a fake drivers license you're set, right? I mean, the doctor/insurance company isn't verifying your ID against their records.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  >But if you show the doctor a fake drivers license you're set, right? Right. Fake ID and fake insurance card would work just fine.
brilliantcode 10y ago
How is your friend taking the news? I can't imagine the level of sadness at the thought of your own biological birth mother giving you up like that. Freud says they go through their whole life trying to avoid abandonment. I'd imagine the sadness easily turning into some sort of aimless wrath. It's like being told you've lived a lie to save birthgiver's face. Maybe that's what happened to Paul Le Roux when he found out he was not only adopted but that they didn't even bother giving it a name.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  Um...wtf? Are you replying to the right post? What news? It was never a secret, my cousin always knew he was adopted and nobody was ever sad. The situation is exactly like any other adoption just was informal in that it didn't involve the government. It worked out very well for everyone involved. Adoption happens every single day.
  - brilliantcode 10y ago
    still must be a pretty shitty feeling your own biological mother didn't want you which is evidenced by the fact that his mother gave him up because he was unwanted. regardless of transparency, it must put a ton of subconscious burden on your friend whether he admits it or not. https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/psychological-issues-faced-by-adopted-children-and-adults/ https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/psychological-issues-fac...