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Unfortunately ASC X12 is very good at keeping their docs hidden. I'm fortunate to be able to have the docs provided by work but when I didn't I would just searc

by jetti 9y ago

Unfortunately ASC X12 is very good at keeping their docs hidden. I'm fortunate to be able to have the docs provided by work but when I didn't I would just search for the file type and spec (e.g "837 Spec") and would go off the companion guides. Companion guides from various companies are not a reliable to create a product though as they can deviate from the standard EDIT: One place I forgot to look is Microsoft's BizTalk HIPAA information[0]. It has information about the various segments and how they are laid out. [0] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc982631(v=bts.10).aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc982631(v=bts.10)....

dragonwriter 9y ago
> Unfortunately ASC X12 is very good at keeping their docs hidden They aren't hidden, they just aren't free, and the kinds of people paying for them aren't as likely to share them illegally as is the case with some other non-free content. (The 4010 versions of the standards were free [gratis, not libre] because the government paid X12 to make them available without charge to encourage adoption.) > One place I forgot to look is Microsoft's BizTalk HIPAA information[0]. It has information about the various segments and how they are laid out. Unless I'm missing something, it only seems to have info on the common envelope segments, not the segments making up the actual transaction set, and the information it does have is woefully incomplete.
- jetti 9y ago
  You're right, they aren't hidden but not free. Hidden was a bad choice of words as they just aren't available without paying. BizTalk and Websphere documenation on X12 is limited and mainly focuses around the envelopes (though I do believe there are other segments covered in BizTalk docs I just can't find them at the moment). If you don't have access to the specificiations then your only real options are BizTalk/Websphere/other tool docs + companion guides. It isn't going to get you far at all
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    The full set of HIPAA mandated X12 standards is only $3,100, which isn't all that much. (Though, yeah, it would be much better if they were still gratis; but even when they were it wasn't exactly like the open-source community was jumping all over them.) The bigger problem is that many of the external code sets referenced are also not-free-of-charge, and weren't even when the X12 standards were.
    - jetti 9y ago
      It isn't that much for a company but that is sure a large amount of money to start an open source project.

by jetti 9y ago

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Unfortunately ASC X12 is very good at keeping their docs hidden They aren't hidden, they just aren't free, and the kinds of people paying for them aren't as likely to share them illegally as is the case with some other non-free content. (The 4010 versions of the standards were free [gratis, not libre] because the government paid X12 to make them available without charge to encourage adoption.) > One place I forgot to look is Microsoft's BizTalk HIPAA information[0]. It has information about the various segments and how they are laid out. Unless I'm missing something, it only seems to have info on the common envelope segments, not the segments making up the actual transaction set, and the information it does have is woefully incomplete.

jetti 9y ago
You're right, they aren't hidden but not free. Hidden was a bad choice of words as they just aren't available without paying. BizTalk and Websphere documenation on X12 is limited and mainly focuses around the envelopes (though I do believe there are other segments covered in BizTalk docs I just can't find them at the moment). If you don't have access to the specificiations then your only real options are BizTalk/Websphere/other tool docs + companion guides. It isn't going to get you far at all
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  The full set of HIPAA mandated X12 standards is only $3,100, which isn't all that much. (Though, yeah, it would be much better if they were still gratis; but even when they were it wasn't exactly like the open-source community was jumping all over them.) The bigger problem is that many of the external code sets referenced are also not-free-of-charge, and weren't even when the X12 standards were.
  - jetti 9y ago
    It isn't that much for a company but that is sure a large amount of money to start an open source project.