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> Python 2 is like FORTRAN. It might not be sexy anymore but it's not going anywhere. Except Fortran is, and is going to be, further developed. (So, if a new u

> Python 2 is like FORTRAN. It might not be sexy anymore but it's not going anywhere. Except Fortran is, and is going to be, further developed. (So, if a new useful programming concept appears, or a major design mistake is discovered, it always can be patched.) Python 2 is going to be abandoned in 2020. Python 3 will supersede it.

xrange 9y ago
>Python 2 is going to be abandoned in 2020. But Python 2 is Free Software, so as long as people like it, they can keep improving it: https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon
pekk 9y ago
FORTRAN 77 is just as likely to be abandoned in 2020 as well. And?
- jerryszczerry 9y ago
  How many uses can you find for Fortran 77 besides legacy systems?
  - carapace 9y ago
    Well now you're getting onto my personal reason why I don't adopt Python 3. Python 2 will remain just as useful as it's been. Python 3 will not significantly extend that usefulness. So I don't think there's much to be gained. The 3 syntax and new features are not massively better than the sweet spot hit by 2, they're not even incrementally better. They're just massively more complicated. So the cost/benefit ratio of Python 2 to 3 just isn't there. People are changing up because it's "the done thing" not because they really gain anything. I was surprised as hell when I realized I wouldn't use Python 3, but it is a rational and considered opinion.
carapace 9y ago
Abandoned by whom? ;-) I don't plan to abandon it. Elsewhere in the thread xrange has mentioned Tauthon. And there are more Python 2 interpreters than just the main C Python. Pypy may stop supporting 2 syntax officially, but I doubt it. Since it never changes, there's next to no overhead to keeping it available. And further, if your language isn't changing then maintenance and debugging become much easier. Conceivably the codebase(s) can asymptotically approach 100% correctness. O_o

xrange 9y ago

>Python 2 is going to be abandoned in 2020. But Python 2 is Free Software, so as long as people like it, they can keep improving it: https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon

pekk 9y ago

FORTRAN 77 is just as likely to be abandoned in 2020 as well. And?

jerryszczerry 9y ago
How many uses can you find for Fortran 77 besides legacy systems?
- carapace 9y ago
  Well now you're getting onto my personal reason why I don't adopt Python 3. Python 2 will remain just as useful as it's been. Python 3 will not significantly extend that usefulness. So I don't think there's much to be gained. The 3 syntax and new features are not massively better than the sweet spot hit by 2, they're not even incrementally better. They're just massively more complicated. So the cost/benefit ratio of Python 2 to 3 just isn't there. People are changing up because it's "the done thing" not because they really gain anything. I was surprised as hell when I realized I wouldn't use Python 3, but it is a rational and considered opinion.

carapace 9y ago

Abandoned by whom? ;-) I don't plan to abandon it. Elsewhere in the thread xrange has mentioned Tauthon. And there are more Python 2 interpreters than just the main C Python. Pypy may stop supporting 2 syntax officially, but I doubt it. Since it never changes, there's next to no overhead to keeping it available. And further, if your language isn't changing then maintenance and debugging become much easier. Conceivably the codebase(s) can asymptotically approach 100% correctness. O_o