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I'm not a dropbox user. A friend send send me a link to dropbox folder with fotos. The web-UI killed me. I could download the fotos one by one. It was not smoot

by dorgo 10y ago

I'm not a dropbox user. A friend send send me a link to dropbox folder with fotos. The web-UI killed me. I could download the fotos one by one. It was not smooth or fast or pleasant, but it was possible. But since it were hunderets of fotos I looked for a big DOWNLOAD_ALL button. After some time I found such button, but it told me that the folder is too big (2 or 3 GB) for download. WHAT? I tried to create an account to download it to 'my' dropbox, but the free space was less than 2 GB, as far as I rememebr. So dropbox asked me to pay 10$ to get fotos from my friend. After cursing for an hour I asked my friend to bring the fotos on a usb stick.

dublinben 10y ago
As you've encountered, they count shared folders towards the quota of every single user with access. This multiple charging for the same data was one of the reasons I stopped using Dropbox.
qznc 10y ago
I have nearly pulled out of Dropbox by now. The fact that people send me Dropbox links is it's only reason to stay. I find it very convenient to use as a download manager. My reason to drop it is that I want my data out of the US for privacy. Our local (german) companies can provide the cloud basics by now.
- lettergram 10y ago
  > My reason to drop it is that I want my data out of the US for privacy Given most cloud providers use AWS as a back end, that's probably not possible. Plus, if you send email, it likely will hit a gmail,hotmail,etc. server. It's basically impossible to avoid.
  - qznc 10y ago
    I use web.de for email, which is the largest german mail provider in Germany. Their data center is on the other side of my city. Unfortunately, they are somewhat spammy even if you pay. I think about switching to mailbox.org or posteo.de. Sure, lots of my contacts use gmail, but since email encryption is not really used, email is practically unsuitable for secure communication anyways. Fortunately, we have a few good instant messengers (Signal, Wire, Threema, ...) now. The primary use for email today is authentication, so I should probably get my own domain to maintain control. My replacement for Dropbox is SyncThing. There is no cloud storage. It does not provide sharing via public link of course.
    - jorvi 10y ago
      Why not use Protonmail? They even have an IMAP bridge these days..
      - qznc 10y ago
        Mailbox.org does E-Mail for over 20 years [0]. ProtonMail only exists for 3 years [1]. Thus, I give Mailbox.org a higher chance to be still around in 10 years. ProtonMail does PGP via Javascript in the browser, which is ridiculed by security people. Mailbox.org tried that in 2015 and it did not survive their internal pentesting [2]. Maybe ProtonMail has better coders. Maybe not. Mailbox.org smallest offer is 1€/month. ProtonMail lets you choose between nothing and 5€/month. I like the mailbox.org price point. If you believe in secure communication via email, you should support ProtonMail. They try to make it hip and easy. In my opinion this is a lost cause. Even if we could educate the masses about PGP, this is still behind the Double Ratchet Algorithm [3]. [0] https://mailbox.org/en/history/ https://mailbox.org/en/history/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonMail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonMail [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/3z0ymc/mailboxorg_oder_posteo/cyidcpf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/3z0ymc/mailboxorg_oder_... (german) [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Ratchet_Algorithm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Ratchet_Algorithm
  - chatmasta 10y ago
    AWS has regions all over the globe.
    - qznc 10y ago
      That battle is still going on. http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450411690/Microsofts-cloud-privacy-battle-may-go-to-US-Supreme-Court http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450411690/Microsofts-clou...

by dorgo 10y ago

dublinben 10y ago

As you've encountered, they count shared folders towards the quota of every single user with access. This multiple charging for the same data was one of the reasons I stopped using Dropbox.

qznc 10y ago

I have nearly pulled out of Dropbox by now. The fact that people send me Dropbox links is it's only reason to stay. I find it very convenient to use as a download manager. My reason to drop it is that I want my data out of the US for privacy. Our local (german) companies can provide the cloud basics by now.

lettergram 10y ago
> My reason to drop it is that I want my data out of the US for privacy Given most cloud providers use AWS as a back end, that's probably not possible. Plus, if you send email, it likely will hit a gmail,hotmail,etc. server. It's basically impossible to avoid.
- qznc 10y ago
  I use web.de for email, which is the largest german mail provider in Germany. Their data center is on the other side of my city. Unfortunately, they are somewhat spammy even if you pay. I think about switching to mailbox.org or posteo.de. Sure, lots of my contacts use gmail, but since email encryption is not really used, email is practically unsuitable for secure communication anyways. Fortunately, we have a few good instant messengers (Signal, Wire, Threema, ...) now. The primary use for email today is authentication, so I should probably get my own domain to maintain control. My replacement for Dropbox is SyncThing. There is no cloud storage. It does not provide sharing via public link of course.
  - jorvi 10y ago
    Why not use Protonmail? They even have an IMAP bridge these days..
    - qznc 10y ago
      Mailbox.org does E-Mail for over 20 years [0]. ProtonMail only exists for 3 years [1]. Thus, I give Mailbox.org a higher chance to be still around in 10 years. ProtonMail does PGP via Javascript in the browser, which is ridiculed by security people. Mailbox.org tried that in 2015 and it did not survive their internal pentesting [2]. Maybe ProtonMail has better coders. Maybe not. Mailbox.org smallest offer is 1€/month. ProtonMail lets you choose between nothing and 5€/month. I like the mailbox.org price point. If you believe in secure communication via email, you should support ProtonMail. They try to make it hip and easy. In my opinion this is a lost cause. Even if we could educate the masses about PGP, this is still behind the Double Ratchet Algorithm [3]. [0] https://mailbox.org/en/history/ https://mailbox.org/en/history/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonMail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonMail [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/3z0ymc/mailboxorg_oder_posteo/cyidcpf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/3z0ymc/mailboxorg_oder_... (german) [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Ratchet_Algorithm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Ratchet_Algorithm
- chatmasta 10y ago
  AWS has regions all over the globe.
  - qznc 10y ago
    That battle is still going on. http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450411690/Microsofts-cloud-privacy-battle-may-go-to-US-Supreme-Court http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450411690/Microsofts-clou...