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I wonder if we should have dedicated lanes (with barrier in between) for trucks. Going to midtown there's already an express channel. Anyway, most of the traffi

by yeukhon 10y ago

I wonder if we should have dedicated lanes (with barrier in between) for trucks. Going to midtown there's already an express channel. Anyway, most of the traffic is caused by ramp and intersection. Take the I-495. There's always a traffic 1mile before splitting off to Grand Central and JFK, as two lanes go unsplit, one lane goes to Grand Central and JFK. Most cars go to the right (toward JFK). Then about 1000 feet away, there's another split to go to exit 22A, and just 300 feet, there's a small ramp to merge with the main road again. See [1] follow the map. [2] illustrates the congestion about 2miles before [1] where I usually merge with the I-495 traffic. The same is with the Kosciusko bridge, once you pass the merge, the traffic is usually very smooth. Driving there is nightmare. [1]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7375669,-73.8506027,3a,75y,75.72h,65.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-W51QrM6zOqvfScwfr6nw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7375669,-73.8506027,3a,75y,7... [2]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7316156,-73.8699642,3a,75y,350.48h,66.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saJ-PgVIiN7DdPXEWTs0ewQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7316156,-73.8699642,3a,75y,3...

vdnkh 10y ago
>dedicated lanes for trucks This is exactly what's happening in Bayonne across the river. The turnpike -> toll -> residential route (and reverse) to the shipping port creates an extreme amount of congestion - the worst I've seen in NJ. For the past few years they've been building a dedicated turnpike lane, toll booth, and road to the port along with a set schedule based on plate numbers for trucks to be received.
- yeukhon 10y ago
  Has it improved the traffic overall now? Is there a barrier in between? Switching lanes are also major problem in traffic congestion.
- prions 10y ago
  I live in Bayonne and the truck traffic is horrendous. Not only is the congestion from the port to the toll plaza bad, the traffic on the two lane highway getting onto the turnpike (and especially the turnpike bridge) is awful. I'm cautiously optimistic that the construction will help, but the big issue is that as long as trucks are sharing the road, traffic will be much worse. Law enforcement and politicians really need to pay more attention to how dangerous or careless some truck drivers are. It gets old having to literally and figuratively hold your breath every time you get stuck near a truck.
apaprocki 10y ago
Since you're mentioning the area, a JFK pro-tip is usually taking the second, less frequently used exit from 495 that goes down the East side of Flushing Meadows Corona Park [1]. Use Waze. Trust it, even if what it is telling you seems crazy. [1]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7292844,-73.8393884,1040a,35y,350.48h,44.63t/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7292844,-73.8393884,1040a,35...
- yeukhon 10y ago
  I really want to like Waze, two issues: * I am not used to Waze UI I often missed my exit or turns.. * Waze often has a delay telling me when to turn (very often I get a turn signal just 100 feet away). So my plan these days is use Google Map as always, but study the direction, try to learn the road, and optimize on my own if I need to repeat the trip again. My dad says a good driver needs to know how major road works. Years ago GPS wasn't a thing and people got by without problems. Last year's Labor Day weekend I spent the holiday with my friends in Lake George. On the third day I had zero cellular connectivity most of the time on the road, but lucky me I already learned the road (since we have been driving in and out the place multiple times during the day), I was able to get by with little problem.
  - Declanomous 10y ago
    Waze is very bad at notifying you of chains of directions. For instance "Take a left on Main St, then take an immediate right on to N 1st St." It will say "Take a left on Main St." then think for a little while, and then beep because it needs to reroute you. It's really annoying, because it means you need to look at your screen in order to figure out exactly where you are going. Google Mpas gives much, much, much better verbal instructions. I know WAZE doesn't have as much information on every given road as Google, but it isn't difficult to figure out if the next instruction is going to be given too late.
    - yeukhon 10y ago
      I think it's the opposite though. Google Map is very clean. It certainly doesn't optimize route like Waze does (seriously I don't get it why, especially Waze is now part of Google). Google Map is known for taking the main road avoiding local whenever possible. BTW, I don't turn on voice notification, I read the graphic off the screen.
Animats 10y ago
I wonder if we should have dedicated lanes (with barrier in between) for trucks. That's a 1930s idea. GM's Motorama at the 1939 World's Fair had it. Dividing wide roads into narrower sections was once considered a good thing, but it's not helpful in practice. Getting around accidents becomes harder, and so does getting emergency vehicles close to the trouble spot. Lane closures for maintenance become tougher.

by yeukhon 10y ago

vdnkh 10y ago

>dedicated lanes for trucks This is exactly what's happening in Bayonne across the river. The turnpike -> toll -> residential route (and reverse) to the shipping port creates an extreme amount of congestion - the worst I've seen in NJ. For the past few years they've been building a dedicated turnpike lane, toll booth, and road to the port along with a set schedule based on plate numbers for trucks to be received.

yeukhon 10y ago
Has it improved the traffic overall now? Is there a barrier in between? Switching lanes are also major problem in traffic congestion.
prions 10y ago
I live in Bayonne and the truck traffic is horrendous. Not only is the congestion from the port to the toll plaza bad, the traffic on the two lane highway getting onto the turnpike (and especially the turnpike bridge) is awful. I'm cautiously optimistic that the construction will help, but the big issue is that as long as trucks are sharing the road, traffic will be much worse. Law enforcement and politicians really need to pay more attention to how dangerous or careless some truck drivers are. It gets old having to literally and figuratively hold your breath every time you get stuck near a truck.

apaprocki 10y ago

Since you're mentioning the area, a JFK pro-tip is usually taking the second, less frequently used exit from 495 that goes down the East side of Flushing Meadows Corona Park [1]. Use Waze. Trust it, even if what it is telling you seems crazy. [1]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7292844,-73.8393884,1040a,35y,350.48h,44.63t/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7292844,-73.8393884,1040a,35...

yeukhon 10y ago
I really want to like Waze, two issues: * I am not used to Waze UI I often missed my exit or turns.. * Waze often has a delay telling me when to turn (very often I get a turn signal just 100 feet away). So my plan these days is use Google Map as always, but study the direction, try to learn the road, and optimize on my own if I need to repeat the trip again. My dad says a good driver needs to know how major road works. Years ago GPS wasn't a thing and people got by without problems. Last year's Labor Day weekend I spent the holiday with my friends in Lake George. On the third day I had zero cellular connectivity most of the time on the road, but lucky me I already learned the road (since we have been driving in and out the place multiple times during the day), I was able to get by with little problem.
- Declanomous 10y ago
  Waze is very bad at notifying you of chains of directions. For instance "Take a left on Main St, then take an immediate right on to N 1st St." It will say "Take a left on Main St." then think for a little while, and then beep because it needs to reroute you. It's really annoying, because it means you need to look at your screen in order to figure out exactly where you are going. Google Mpas gives much, much, much better verbal instructions. I know WAZE doesn't have as much information on every given road as Google, but it isn't difficult to figure out if the next instruction is going to be given too late.
  - yeukhon 10y ago
    I think it's the opposite though. Google Map is very clean. It certainly doesn't optimize route like Waze does (seriously I don't get it why, especially Waze is now part of Google). Google Map is known for taking the main road avoiding local whenever possible. BTW, I don't turn on voice notification, I read the graphic off the screen.

Animats 10y ago

I wonder if we should have dedicated lanes (with barrier in between) for trucks. That's a 1930s idea. GM's Motorama at the 1939 World's Fair had it. Dividing wide roads into narrower sections was once considered a good thing, but it's not helpful in practice. Getting around accidents becomes harder, and so does getting emergency vehicles close to the trouble spot. Lane closures for maintenance become tougher.