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Can anyone explain to an outsider why this is disruptive? Are these significantly faster than the old x64 offerings? A lot cheaper? For that matter, has anyone

by pawadu 9y ago

Can anyone explain to an outsider why this is disruptive? Are these significantly faster than the old x64 offerings? A lot cheaper? For that matter, has anyone done a real-world armv8 vs. x64 benchmark? -- edit: would like to test them myself, unfortunately they only allow payment through a "physical" credit card: https://www.scaleway.com/faq/billing/#-What-forms-of-payment-do-you-accept https://www.scaleway.com/faq/billing/#-What-forms-of-payment...

discordianfish 9y ago
All I can say right now is that it's dirt cheap for bare metal. Scaleway was already the cheapest option for bare metal and this looks like a significant performance bump.
- tyingq 9y ago
  I was fooled as well. Apparently these are not bare metal. "Cloud server" is a misleading way of saying "VPS".
  - progval 9y ago
    “Cloud server” means both bare metal and VPS at Scaleway.
  - amorphid 9y ago
    They offer cloud server and bare metal.
  - discordianfish 9y ago
    It says "C1 - A true metal ARM server running in the cloud." on their product page.
tyingq 9y ago
[deleted] Edit: Appears to be a cloud server, aka VPS, so not much to see here. Removed the now erroneous comment. I had mentioned OVH's kimsufi, which does have cheap (though not as cheap as these "cloud servers"), actual dedicated boxes: http://kimsufi.com/ http://kimsufi.com/
- jgillich 9y ago
  The servers in the announcement are not dedicated, but virtual. The CPU is the Cavium ThunderX with 48 cores.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    Urgh. Missed that. "Cloud Server" is an unfortunate moniker. If this is just a VPS, then there's not much to see here.
    - floatboth 9y ago
      Not much to see? If you like ARM, AArch64 VPSes are very exciting!
      - elcct 9y ago
        If you like to wait
- deleted 9y ago
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- slau 9y ago
  Scaleway is owned by Iliad. Iliad also owns Online.net. Online.net is Kimsufi's (OVH) main competitor: - €8.99/mo: Intel Avoton C2350 (2x 1.7 Ghz), 4GB ECC RAM, 1x 1TB HDD or 1x 120GB SSD. 1Gbit/s unlimited. - €15.99/mo: Intel Avoton C2750 (8x 2.4 Ghz), 16GB ECC RAM, 1x 1TB HDD or 1x 250GB SSD. 2.5Gbit/s unlimited. I have one of the latter ones, and it's amazing. The only problem I have with it is that the bandwidth between Online.net and my ISP in Denmark goes through NL-IX, and something there doesn't jive. Even though the server can easily hit the 2Gbit/s mark, I'm barely hitting 3Mbit/s from home due to the NL-IX pipe being overloaded. I'm using a proxy at OVH (Kimsufi), which at least gives me 100Mbit/s (the peering to OVH goes through HE). Edit: If you're wondering why there are so many HDD servers available vs the SSD ones, it's because they have been hit by a fan-of-death issue. They have fans in their PSUs that vibrate so much (or maybe hit the resonance frequency of the racks) that prevent the HDDs from spinning up. Online still "sells" those broken racks, even though they have dozens if not more servers impacted by this. The problem has been ongoing since November 2016 [1]. [1]: https://status.online.net/index.php?do=details&task_id=720 https://status.online.net/index.php?do=details&task_id=720

by pawadu 9y ago

discordianfish 9y ago

All I can say right now is that it's dirt cheap for bare metal. Scaleway was already the cheapest option for bare metal and this looks like a significant performance bump.

tyingq 9y ago
I was fooled as well. Apparently these are not bare metal. "Cloud server" is a misleading way of saying "VPS".
- progval 9y ago
  “Cloud server” means both bare metal and VPS at Scaleway.
- amorphid 9y ago
  They offer cloud server and bare metal.
- discordianfish 9y ago
  It says "C1 - A true metal ARM server running in the cloud." on their product page.

tyingq 9y ago

[deleted] Edit: Appears to be a cloud server, aka VPS, so not much to see here. Removed the now erroneous comment. I had mentioned OVH's kimsufi, which does have cheap (though not as cheap as these "cloud servers"), actual dedicated boxes: http://kimsufi.com/ http://kimsufi.com/

jgillich 9y ago
The servers in the announcement are not dedicated, but virtual. The CPU is the Cavium ThunderX with 48 cores.
- tyingq 9y ago
  Urgh. Missed that. "Cloud Server" is an unfortunate moniker. If this is just a VPS, then there's not much to see here.
  - floatboth 9y ago
    Not much to see? If you like ARM, AArch64 VPSes are very exciting!
    - elcct 9y ago
      If you like to wait
deleted 9y ago
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slau 9y ago
Scaleway is owned by Iliad. Iliad also owns Online.net. Online.net is Kimsufi's (OVH) main competitor: - €8.99/mo: Intel Avoton C2350 (2x 1.7 Ghz), 4GB ECC RAM, 1x 1TB HDD or 1x 120GB SSD. 1Gbit/s unlimited. - €15.99/mo: Intel Avoton C2750 (8x 2.4 Ghz), 16GB ECC RAM, 1x 1TB HDD or 1x 250GB SSD. 2.5Gbit/s unlimited. I have one of the latter ones, and it's amazing. The only problem I have with it is that the bandwidth between Online.net and my ISP in Denmark goes through NL-IX, and something there doesn't jive. Even though the server can easily hit the 2Gbit/s mark, I'm barely hitting 3Mbit/s from home due to the NL-IX pipe being overloaded. I'm using a proxy at OVH (Kimsufi), which at least gives me 100Mbit/s (the peering to OVH goes through HE). Edit: If you're wondering why there are so many HDD servers available vs the SSD ones, it's because they have been hit by a fan-of-death issue. They have fans in their PSUs that vibrate so much (or maybe hit the resonance frequency of the racks) that prevent the HDDs from spinning up. Online still "sells" those broken racks, even though they have dozens if not more servers impacted by this. The problem has been ongoing since November 2016 [1]. [1]: https://status.online.net/index.php?do=details&task_id=720 https://status.online.net/index.php?do=details&task_id=720