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I am super excited for this. I've been running an ARMv7 server on Scaleway almost since they were released. However, I don't see any news that the new ARMv8 se

I am super excited for this. I've been running an ARMv7 server on Scaleway almost since they were released. However, I don't see any news that the new ARMv8 servers will support native IPv6. This is a big limitation, if you want to be IPv6 accessible now, you have to run a 6in4 tunnel. The x86 servers (physical and VM) from Scaleway all support native IPv6. The explanation so far was that the ARM back plane doesn't support IPv6. So will these new ARMv8 servers support native IPv6? Or are they build on the same back plane as the ARMv7 servers? Edit: It's supported, I can't read.

nik736 9y ago
What advantages are you hoping to get from IPv6? It's in a broken state right now and will be for years to come.
- xena 9y ago
  Each container having its own public ipv6 address or each customer's requests coming off of a different bindhost
- kogepathic 9y ago
  Most providers will give you a /64 IPv6 subnet, so you can assign services distinct IPv6 addresses. Apart from that, I'd like people on IPv6 connections to be able to access my server directly? There are a lot of providers who are using cgNAT today for IPv4 connections in Asia and Europe due to address exhaustion, and I've had bad experiences with people behind cgNAT. Plus it's 20-freaking-17. Why aren't they offering IPv6?
- thraway2016 9y ago
  Can you elaborate on what constitutes "broken" ?
  - nik736 9y ago
    Sure, how about routes are not working or are very very slow via IPv6? Just an example I had a problem with recently: DTAG (largest german carrier) had no route at all to a DC in the Netherlands via IPv6. I had no option to reach DTAG from this specific DC, which is basically most germans. It took days (!) to get sorted. Next example is Cogent, they had huge packet loss via IPv6 for days (we are speaking 50%+). After a ticket was opened it was fixed very fast, but it seems no one cares about IPv6 as long as they can put a stamp on it which says "We support IPv6". Most people who shout for IPv6 are not even using it so I am always a bit sceptical.
mrweasel 9y ago
Is there any specific reason that you went with the ARM server, rather than an x86? They honestly don't seem that much cheaper than say an VMs from other cloud providers, and I don't imagine that they're able to beat an x86 in terms of performance.
- kogepathic 9y ago
  > Is there any specific reason that you went with the ARM server, rather than an x86? 1. I work a lot with ARM in my personal and professional life, so I actually like that Scaleway is offering ARM servers because it means I can take armhf binaries I build at home and run them in Scaleway 2. I run Linux on the server, so I'm not really impacted by the fact it's ARM. All the packages I need are available for ARM. I'm not running any legacy software that would require x86. > I don't imagine that they're able to beat an x86 in terms of performance. It's primarily a web server, so I don't give a hoot about performance. I care more about the unlimited bandwidth Scaleway offers, even though I don't consume that much. For 3 EUR per month it's perfect for me. VPS providers usually over provision (unless they really suck at being VPS providers) and that means you might have a great time, or a terrible time, depending on your neighbours resource utilisation. Being the only tenant means that you aren't impacted by what other people do, and as I said, it's 3 EUR/month which is fantastic for running a personal website.
multani 9y ago
They say in this article these new servers have native IPv6 support actually.
- kogepathic 9y ago
  Thanks for pointing that out, I totally missed that! Their main page still doesn't mention this though. [0] [0] https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/
  - slitaz 9y ago
    When creating a new ARMv8 server, IPv6 is off by default. You just need to tick it and that's it.
    - taneliv 9y ago
      And kill the IPv4 address (if you don't need it) and save 1€ per month.
spystath 9y ago
Too bad all they offer is a single IP, or a /127 to be exact. Very strange decision.
wooptoo 9y ago
They do have IPv6 - I just checked the admin dashboard.

nik736 9y ago

What advantages are you hoping to get from IPv6? It's in a broken state right now and will be for years to come.

xena 9y ago
Each container having its own public ipv6 address or each customer's requests coming off of a different bindhost
kogepathic 9y ago
Most providers will give you a /64 IPv6 subnet, so you can assign services distinct IPv6 addresses. Apart from that, I'd like people on IPv6 connections to be able to access my server directly? There are a lot of providers who are using cgNAT today for IPv4 connections in Asia and Europe due to address exhaustion, and I've had bad experiences with people behind cgNAT. Plus it's 20-freaking-17. Why aren't they offering IPv6?
thraway2016 9y ago
Can you elaborate on what constitutes "broken" ?
- nik736 9y ago
  Sure, how about routes are not working or are very very slow via IPv6? Just an example I had a problem with recently: DTAG (largest german carrier) had no route at all to a DC in the Netherlands via IPv6. I had no option to reach DTAG from this specific DC, which is basically most germans. It took days (!) to get sorted. Next example is Cogent, they had huge packet loss via IPv6 for days (we are speaking 50%+). After a ticket was opened it was fixed very fast, but it seems no one cares about IPv6 as long as they can put a stamp on it which says "We support IPv6". Most people who shout for IPv6 are not even using it so I am always a bit sceptical.

mrweasel 9y ago

Is there any specific reason that you went with the ARM server, rather than an x86? They honestly don't seem that much cheaper than say an VMs from other cloud providers, and I don't imagine that they're able to beat an x86 in terms of performance.

kogepathic 9y ago
> Is there any specific reason that you went with the ARM server, rather than an x86? 1. I work a lot with ARM in my personal and professional life, so I actually like that Scaleway is offering ARM servers because it means I can take armhf binaries I build at home and run them in Scaleway 2. I run Linux on the server, so I'm not really impacted by the fact it's ARM. All the packages I need are available for ARM. I'm not running any legacy software that would require x86. > I don't imagine that they're able to beat an x86 in terms of performance. It's primarily a web server, so I don't give a hoot about performance. I care more about the unlimited bandwidth Scaleway offers, even though I don't consume that much. For 3 EUR per month it's perfect for me. VPS providers usually over provision (unless they really suck at being VPS providers) and that means you might have a great time, or a terrible time, depending on your neighbours resource utilisation. Being the only tenant means that you aren't impacted by what other people do, and as I said, it's 3 EUR/month which is fantastic for running a personal website.

multani 9y ago

They say in this article these new servers have native IPv6 support actually.

kogepathic 9y ago
Thanks for pointing that out, I totally missed that! Their main page still doesn't mention this though. [0] [0] https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/
- slitaz 9y ago
  When creating a new ARMv8 server, IPv6 is off by default. You just need to tick it and that's it.
  - taneliv 9y ago
    And kill the IPv4 address (if you don't need it) and save 1€ per month.

spystath 9y ago

Too bad all they offer is a single IP, or a /127 to be exact. Very strange decision.

wooptoo 9y ago

They do have IPv6 - I just checked the admin dashboard.