It's a culture problem, not a platform problem, and the problem isn't with .NET shops per se, but with enterprise shops that [treat programmers as fungible cogs

It's a culture problem, not a platform problem, and the problem isn't with .NET shops per se, but with enterprise shops that [treat programmers as fungible cogs][0]. Language enters into that to some extent, because this kind of shop wants programmers with a certain baseline of skill in a widely used language with a widely used stack, and Java and .NET fit the bill. But there's no reason you can't do interesting stuff with good methodology in those languages...if you're not trying to do it at one of those shops. [0]: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=69 http://www.loper-os.org/?p=69