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I worked about a year writing desktop software in C#. Probably the most fun period of my carrier, we were getting things done and delivering before schedule whi

by pawadu 9y ago

I worked about a year writing desktop software in C#. Probably the most fun period of my carrier, we were getting things done and delivering before schedule while all having a great time. Also, I get this feeling that the original poster (Rob) is the kind of guy who has zero experience outside a few web frameworks. The kind of guy that barely even knows that desktop, server and embedded exist.

icebraining 9y ago
Also, I get this feeling that the original poster (Rob) is the kind of guy who has zero experience outside a few web frameworks. The kind of guy that barely even knows that desktop, server and embedded exist. I think these kinds of disparaging remarks about people don't belong in a civil discussion. If you feel that the opinion isn't worth being discussed, you can just not comment.
- custos 9y ago
  I feel people who generalize others with a certain specialty negatively is a kind of disparaging remark that doesn't belong in civil dicussion, so let's not pretend this is one. The original blog is spewing some pretty stereotypical bullshit you'd expect from some teenager seriously engaged in a which OS or text editor is better holy war.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    so let's not pretend this is one. That's an interesting position. Shouldn't we strive to have a civil discussion despite whatever incivility may have sparked it? Is any discussion irrevocably tainted?
    - rhapsodic 9y ago
      >That's an interesting position. Shouldn't we strive to have a civil discussion despite whatever incivility may have sparked it? Is any discussion irrevocably tainted? I reserve the right to decide that for myself on a case-by-case basis. And FWIW, I don't think lecturing someone else about their civility is a civil thing to do.
- pawadu 9y ago
  No, I don't feel this was a disparaging remark about a person. A guy makes a huge claim based on his very limited view of the market (while insulting everybody). I think I am in my full right to call him out.
  - lobut 9y ago
    It's not about your "full right". It's about whether or not it leads to civil discussion. The biggest problem with discourse is that we think we know what the other person is thinking.
    - pawadu 9y ago
      Fair enough, I will try to remember that next time.
    - custos 9y ago
      Doesn't matter what he's thinking, it matters what he's saying, and what he's saying is not something that engenders civil discourse so none should be expected.
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  > I think these kinds of disparaging remarks about people don't belong in a civil discussion. If you feel that the opinion isn't worth being discussed, you can just not comment. I don't think the comments were all that unreasonable considering that their subject (Rob Ashton) said: "It'll not happen because as long as you're working on a platform that is primarily used by derpy enterprise shops, you will continually be held back because those derpy enteprise shops are continually be held back by the derpy enterprise developers that work in the derpy enterprise shops."

by pawadu 9y ago

icebraining 9y ago

Also, I get this feeling that the original poster (Rob) is the kind of guy who has zero experience outside a few web frameworks. The kind of guy that barely even knows that desktop, server and embedded exist. I think these kinds of disparaging remarks about people don't belong in a civil discussion. If you feel that the opinion isn't worth being discussed, you can just not comment.

custos 9y ago
I feel people who generalize others with a certain specialty negatively is a kind of disparaging remark that doesn't belong in civil dicussion, so let's not pretend this is one. The original blog is spewing some pretty stereotypical bullshit you'd expect from some teenager seriously engaged in a which OS or text editor is better holy war.
- icebraining 9y ago
  so let's not pretend this is one. That's an interesting position. Shouldn't we strive to have a civil discussion despite whatever incivility may have sparked it? Is any discussion irrevocably tainted?
  - rhapsodic 9y ago
    >That's an interesting position. Shouldn't we strive to have a civil discussion despite whatever incivility may have sparked it? Is any discussion irrevocably tainted? I reserve the right to decide that for myself on a case-by-case basis. And FWIW, I don't think lecturing someone else about their civility is a civil thing to do.
pawadu 9y ago
No, I don't feel this was a disparaging remark about a person. A guy makes a huge claim based on his very limited view of the market (while insulting everybody). I think I am in my full right to call him out.
- lobut 9y ago
  It's not about your "full right". It's about whether or not it leads to civil discussion. The biggest problem with discourse is that we think we know what the other person is thinking.
  - pawadu 9y ago
    Fair enough, I will try to remember that next time.
  - custos 9y ago
    Doesn't matter what he's thinking, it matters what he's saying, and what he's saying is not something that engenders civil discourse so none should be expected.
rhapsodic 9y ago
> I think these kinds of disparaging remarks about people don't belong in a civil discussion. If you feel that the opinion isn't worth being discussed, you can just not comment. I don't think the comments were all that unreasonable considering that their subject (Rob Ashton) said: "It'll not happen because as long as you're working on a platform that is primarily used by derpy enterprise shops, you will continually be held back because those derpy enteprise shops are continually be held back by the derpy enterprise developers that work in the derpy enterprise shops."