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How about in the case of Uber and Uber drivers? Uber's initial operations in certain FL counties lead to both civil and criminal charges. Uber was literally h

How about in the case of Uber and Uber drivers? Uber's initial operations in certain FL counties lead to both civil and criminal charges. Uber was literally hiring contractors for the purpose of breaking the law, in one case actively recruited a driver from a county where it was was legal to a county where it was illegal (driver was arrested), provided drivers training on how to avoid police detection, and even provided at least Miami drivers a lawyer when charged (lawyer was an Uber lobbiest not a traffic lawyer). Net impact on society: a bunch of rides subsidized by VC money and a lot of unemployed/underemployed workers left with marks on their driving record or criminal records which likely caused them to lose their Uber job and further hurting their chances of future employment.

chronic940 10y ago
Net impact on society: You and all your friends use UberPool to get around San Francisco for a few bucks one way. No more car insurance or car lease payments for 24 year olds. Now the Uber riders can afford their medical bills or college tuition. Uber is bad, right? Very few people care about the direct negative externalities you mentioned, including here in HN.
- will_brown 10y ago
  The thread is about workers' (criminal) liability for the actions they take at the direction of the company they work for....there is literally an entire thread about it for a post that made it to the front page, so I think it's at least of interest to HN, I'm not even sure what your comment is about.
  - yebyen 10y ago
    I never saw that post, so you could link to it. Not sending a downvote, but I would... (citation needed, (criminal)) Nobody should have criminal liability for actions they took on the direction of their employer, while the employer gets away without consequence. Otherwise we should all get law degrees for free.
    - yebyen 10y ago
      Back up, you were talking about this thread weren't you...

chronic940 10y ago

Net impact on society: You and all your friends use UberPool to get around San Francisco for a few bucks one way. No more car insurance or car lease payments for 24 year olds. Now the Uber riders can afford their medical bills or college tuition. Uber is bad, right? Very few people care about the direct negative externalities you mentioned, including here in HN.

will_brown 10y ago
The thread is about workers' (criminal) liability for the actions they take at the direction of the company they work for....there is literally an entire thread about it for a post that made it to the front page, so I think it's at least of interest to HN, I'm not even sure what your comment is about.
- yebyen 10y ago
  I never saw that post, so you could link to it. Not sending a downvote, but I would... (citation needed, (criminal)) Nobody should have criminal liability for actions they took on the direction of their employer, while the employer gets away without consequence. Otherwise we should all get law degrees for free.
  - yebyen 10y ago
    Back up, you were talking about this thread weren't you...