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Just how much faith do you have in your politicians? By using existing political structures, and a mix of rhetoric, they have managed to get a lot more power t

Just how much faith do you have in your politicians? By using existing political structures, and a mix of rhetoric, they have managed to get a lot more power than a typical person.

DubiousPusher 9y ago
Nice point. The US presidential election has had me thinking about how a smart AI might decide instead to manipulate humans into it's will with misinformation campaigns. That of course would require an AI of human comparable intelligence.
- ben_w 9y ago
  I believe it doesn't necessarily need to outsmart the /average/ human. Consider this scenario: * Someone makes an AI which scores only 85 on IQ tests, but which can run in real time on common consumer hardware. * It gets installed on every phone, PC, and tablet. * Someone, possibly the AI itself if is the type to generate its own goals, sets all instances of the AI the goal of convincing their user of some belief or policy or whatever. * Everyone with IQ<85 is convinced, nobody with an IQ>85 is convinced. * 16% of the population believe whatever it is the goal-setting mind wanted them to believe, at marginal cost. An election is swung, a bank suffers a run, a pyramid scheme makes millions, whatever it is.
  - MarkPNeyer 9y ago
    the ability to emit words on the screen gives a human-like intelligence all kinds of abilities especially if the human-like intelligence doesn't need to pay rent, fear the police, follow laws, sleep, eat ... etc
    - ben_w 9y ago
      In the absence of counter examples, it's reasonable to assume a truly human-like intelligence needs as much down-time and sleep as a real human, and that it can be as effectively coerced with the threat of simulated prison if it breaks the rules. But the point about food and rent is very economically important if they ever get to be cheaper than human labour.
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Just how much faith do you have in your politicians? By using existing political structures, and a mix of rhetoric, they have managed to get a lot more power than a typical person.

DubiousPusher 9y ago

Nice point. The US presidential election has had me thinking about how a smart AI might decide instead to manipulate humans into it's will with misinformation campaigns. That of course would require an AI of human comparable intelligence.

ben_w 9y ago
I believe it doesn't necessarily need to outsmart the /average/ human. Consider this scenario: * Someone makes an AI which scores only 85 on IQ tests, but which can run in real time on common consumer hardware. * It gets installed on every phone, PC, and tablet. * Someone, possibly the AI itself if is the type to generate its own goals, sets all instances of the AI the goal of convincing their user of some belief or policy or whatever. * Everyone with IQ<85 is convinced, nobody with an IQ>85 is convinced. * 16% of the population believe whatever it is the goal-setting mind wanted them to believe, at marginal cost. An election is swung, a bank suffers a run, a pyramid scheme makes millions, whatever it is.
- MarkPNeyer 9y ago
  the ability to emit words on the screen gives a human-like intelligence all kinds of abilities especially if the human-like intelligence doesn't need to pay rent, fear the police, follow laws, sleep, eat ... etc
  - ben_w 9y ago
    In the absence of counter examples, it's reasonable to assume a truly human-like intelligence needs as much down-time and sleep as a real human, and that it can be as effectively coerced with the threat of simulated prison if it breaks the rules. But the point about food and rent is very economically important if they ever get to be cheaper than human labour.
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