I don't disagree, but on the other hand, there's the question of what makes a "Good Engineer". There's plenty of fields where engineers (and other technical fol

I don't disagree, but on the other hand, there's the question of what makes a "Good Engineer". There's plenty of fields where engineers (and other technical folk like architects or even, say, doctors) are certified by professional organizations. Those orgs can keep you from practicing your profession without their approval, and if you do something unethical they can pull your license to operate. The organizations also provide their membership with strong support to stand up to management against bad practices. On the one hand, this certainly makes a lot of sense, especially these days with so many stories about terrible engineering (either just bad or as a result of unethical behavior) causing real harm. On the other hand, it's precisely organizations like this (effectively guilds or unions) that tech "leaders" try to disrupt. They tend to be pretty conservative.