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I think that there is very compelling evidence (but not formal proof) that there is exponential falloff in terms of the ability of parallel networks of intellig
by aetherson 10y ago
I think that there is very compelling evidence (but not formal proof) that there is exponential falloff in terms of the ability of parallel networks of intelligent agents to have heightened overall intelligence.
Imagining that there will be near-human IQ AIs that think orders of magnitude more quickly than humans puts the cart before the horse, as well.
- zeeveener 10y agoWould it not appear as though it was more intelligent simply based on the speed at which it makes decisions? The Actual Intelligence may be the same (or a little higher) considering the Average Intelligence, but the effect the higher speed would likely be a measurable difference.
- aetherson 10y agoYes, that's what I'm saying. If you can make an AI that's roughly human IQ (even like 80 IQ), but thinks 100x faster than a human, then that's something very much like, if not identical to, "a superhuman AI." So when you say, "Here's how we'll get superhuman AI: We'll network together bunches of 80 IQ AI's that think 100x faster than a human," it's kind of assuming its own solution.
- rtx 10y agoWhy would you network them? Just add more ram.
- aetherson 10y agoAsk the guy who came up with this scenario. But, obviously, we do at some point find it easier to set up side-by-side computers with (relatively) high-latency connections (like, say, ethernet) than to try to put more computing resources together with low-latency connections (like motherboard busses), for physical reasons.
- rtx 10y agoReminds me of the story about the galaxy spanning AI in the Dune series. With a latency of 10000 light years between it's various instances.
- canes123456 10y agoSame reason why culture matters more than individual IQ. Most of human progress is cause because there are many people learn from each other and making millions of tiny improvements over time.
- canes123456 10y agoSame reason why culture matters more than individual IQ. Most of human progress is cause because there are many people learn from each other and making millions of tiny improvements over time.
- canes123456 10y agoThe 100x faster scenario is not really clear to me. Computers already "think" orders of magnitude faster for some things and orders of magnitude slower in other things. I am not sure this will be all that much more useful than the status quo. Unless they modeling a human brain than I see 100x faster being a useful thing to measure. Otherwise, I don't see speed increases being all that critical to making a superhuman AI. I think networks of AI can become super powerful even without being nearly as smart as individual humans. AI will only need to approach certain aspects of humans IQ. It can still be much dumb than us in most ways. Most of human progress has been build up because of vague interactions and feedback loops via markets, religions, and nations.
- aetherson 10y agoYou said that the AIs would be able to "communicate and interact" much faster than humans. If they can't think much faster than humans, then they can't communicate and interact (meaningfully) much faster than humans.
- canes123456 9y agoYou can think much faster than you can express yourself. You can express yourself much faster than most people can understand you. You can only have a back and forth communication with a tiny number of people at once.
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- canes123456 10y agoI don't think it will have heightened measurable intelligence. It will be dramatically more powerful, unpredictable and innovative.