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Closing Communities: FFFFOUND vs. MLKSHK

36 points by _pius 9y ago

dawnerd 9y ago
Thesixtyone is also closing in a few days and didn't give much notice. No way to export anything either. I've tried to scrape the site but considering how many days are left I can't possibly finish.
- jimminy 9y ago
  That's a site I haven't heard mentioned in quite a few years. Sad to hear it is also closing.
- AdrianRossouw 9y ago
  ask the archive team guys on irc http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
  - dawnerd 9y ago
    I would but honestly, there are far more important things that need their effort. t61 requires a bit of work to actually get the music. youtube-dl supports it, but only one at a time.
- zokier 9y ago
  With stories like this, I always find it bizarre that artists/creators do not keep personal master copies of their works. I don't think it's fair to push the blame of losing the works completely to the service operators, I feel that creators also have some responsibility to employ due diligence if they want their works to be preserved.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    Agreed. Putting something on the Internet makes it convenient to access, but I've never created something that I cared about that I didn't keep a local copy of. The idea actually makes me a little uncomfortable.
AdrianRossouw 9y ago
I ran a large online community with tens of thousands of users that existed for nearly 19 years. When it came time to close it down, I left a notice on the site for several months before i made it read only... then the helpful guys at archive team[1] helped me create a complete archive of the site on archive.org with their irc bot. once that was complete, i replaced the site with a notice and linked to the archives from there. As an aside, one of the old domains that we used for a while lapsed at some point, and some spammer put up a copy of the pages from the internet archives with ads injected into the content. That eventually went to an SEO landing page a few months later. [1] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
- abstractbeliefs 9y ago
  For those that don't know, Archive Team and Internet Archive are two different groups (though with an overlapping membership). Internet Archive are a non-profit org that are legally held to high standards, as they should be. They're a very stable place to have data archived. That comes with a few limitations, like not making information available if there's any (even accidental) indication that the upstream site want it kept private - see the comments about robots.txt in tfa. Archive Team, on the other hand, are a fairly fun and radical group that are far more loosely organised, who will archive what they can when it's needed, and horde it. Fuck your robots.txt![1] If you can get involved in either organisation, it's highly recommended. They both have interesting challenges and solve them with neat tools. [1] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Robots.txt http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Robots.txt

36 points by _pius 9y ago

Thesixtyone is also closing in a few days and didn't give much notice. No way to export anything either. I've tried to scrape the site but considering how many days are left I can't possibly finish.

jimminy 9y ago
That's a site I haven't heard mentioned in quite a few years. Sad to hear it is also closing.
AdrianRossouw 9y ago
ask the archive team guys on irc http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
- dawnerd 9y ago
  I would but honestly, there are far more important things that need their effort. t61 requires a bit of work to actually get the music. youtube-dl supports it, but only one at a time.
zokier 9y ago
With stories like this, I always find it bizarre that artists/creators do not keep personal master copies of their works. I don't think it's fair to push the blame of losing the works completely to the service operators, I feel that creators also have some responsibility to employ due diligence if they want their works to be preserved.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  Agreed. Putting something on the Internet makes it convenient to access, but I've never created something that I cared about that I didn't keep a local copy of. The idea actually makes me a little uncomfortable.

AdrianRossouw 9y ago

I ran a large online community with tens of thousands of users that existed for nearly 19 years. When it came time to close it down, I left a notice on the site for several months before i made it read only... then the helpful guys at archive team[1] helped me create a complete archive of the site on archive.org with their irc bot. once that was complete, i replaced the site with a notice and linked to the archives from there. As an aside, one of the old domains that we used for a while lapsed at some point, and some spammer put up a copy of the pages from the internet archives with ads injected into the content. That eventually went to an SEO landing page a few months later. [1] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

abstractbeliefs 9y ago
For those that don't know, Archive Team and Internet Archive are two different groups (though with an overlapping membership). Internet Archive are a non-profit org that are legally held to high standards, as they should be. They're a very stable place to have data archived. That comes with a few limitations, like not making information available if there's any (even accidental) indication that the upstream site want it kept private - see the comments about robots.txt in tfa. Archive Team, on the other hand, are a fairly fun and radical group that are far more loosely organised, who will archive what they can when it's needed, and horde it. Fuck your robots.txt![1] If you can get involved in either organisation, it's highly recommended. They both have interesting challenges and solve them with neat tools. [1] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Robots.txt http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Robots.txt