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The problem is, I think, what choice do we have (we == rest of the world) when somebody's messed up camera starts spamming the entire Internet? And how much doe

The problem is, I think, what choice do we have (we == rest of the world) when somebody's messed up camera starts spamming the entire Internet? And how much does cost the mirai botnet to everyone when some client rents it? Best case scenario: users claim warranty and replace their devices something better Worst case scenario: users need to buy new gear, they probably won't buy from that same manufacturer because last one died for no apparent reason. Really worst case scenario: users buy again the same cr*p and dies again, until they realize that brand is worthless and buy something a bit better. Doesn't seem so bad, if the alternative is having their machines taking down businesses and users...

JabavuAdams 9y ago
Really worst-case scenario: Someone is killed or maimed due to bricked system. FTFY
- nickpsecurity 9y ago
  I was particularly thinking of baby monitors during an emergency. It was most important house-hold device I could think of in terms of harm. Maybe turn a freezer off on IoT fridge while people are on vacation then back on just before they return to make meat refreeze or something spoiled. Maybe turn off the power in household with IoT home automation and someone on life support of some kind. Im only having a few possibilities come to mind that are life-threatening. Most are just annoying or financial drain. If we add painful, maybe make an epileptic's screen on SmartTV blink fast like the attack on the web site. Turn off people's alarm clock enough they get fired and loose health insurance before major operation. Im really having to stretch it here.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    Alarm system with remote fire alarm capability. Those things are everywhere and if they don't work people could easily die.
    - nickpsecurity 9y ago
      That's a great one. Good catch.
  - mondoshawan 9y ago
    Lights that turn off at night while someone is walking down stairs can result in death if that person is unfamiliar or disoriented enough to tumble.
    - nickpsecurity 9y ago
      That's clever. The threat of lighting was nicely illustrated on Christmas Vacation. Whole relationships ruined and stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8lwpvQEIM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8lwpvQEIM

JabavuAdams 9y ago

Really worst-case scenario: Someone is killed or maimed due to bricked system. FTFY

nickpsecurity 9y ago
I was particularly thinking of baby monitors during an emergency. It was most important house-hold device I could think of in terms of harm. Maybe turn a freezer off on IoT fridge while people are on vacation then back on just before they return to make meat refreeze or something spoiled. Maybe turn off the power in household with IoT home automation and someone on life support of some kind. Im only having a few possibilities come to mind that are life-threatening. Most are just annoying or financial drain. If we add painful, maybe make an epileptic's screen on SmartTV blink fast like the attack on the web site. Turn off people's alarm clock enough they get fired and loose health insurance before major operation. Im really having to stretch it here.
- jacquesm 9y ago
  Alarm system with remote fire alarm capability. Those things are everywhere and if they don't work people could easily die.
  - nickpsecurity 9y ago
    That's a great one. Good catch.
- mondoshawan 9y ago
  Lights that turn off at night while someone is walking down stairs can result in death if that person is unfamiliar or disoriented enough to tumble.
  - nickpsecurity 9y ago
    That's clever. The threat of lighting was nicely illustrated on Christmas Vacation. Whole relationships ruined and stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8lwpvQEIM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8lwpvQEIM