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Install git without requiring root privileges... Also git is a 3rd party application, yet somehow all distros treat git as part of base system/OS bundle/whateve

by ldev 9y ago

Install git without requiring root privileges... Also git is a 3rd party application, yet somehow all distros treat git as part of base system/OS bundle/whatever, so Fedora 25 has set version of 2.9, 24 of 2.7, etc. WHY. WHY. It's third party software, not part of your god damn OS - there should be only one version of git in the repos for ALL FEDORA VERSIONS - and that would be the latest... Come the fuck on. Replace "git" with every other package.... Linux is so amateur hour with all plainly stupid decisions, I'd rather pay good money for proper unix.

hd4 9y ago
Your criticisms of Linux are basically that there is a proper security/stability process in place.
- ldev 9y ago
  0.2% desktop users agree. Continue live in your strange bubble, just stop mentioning linux to normal folk.
  - hd4 9y ago
    I didn't realise normal folk came to HN, but your advice is noted.
    - ldev 9y ago
      I've found HN through /r/programmingcirclejerk and thought no one would be so out of touch with reality, not even Steve Jobs, but this is golden. hail linux
chrizel 9y ago
If you want the latest and greatest of everything, you could use Arch Linux. Git today in many ways could be seen as fundamental component of many tools. Many packaging and build tools use it to fetch data. (like homebrew, plugin systems for many text editors etc.) Also, the git version of your distribution IS relevant because other packages depend on it. For example, on my Ubuntu system the git package is a dependency of over 170 other packages. If you could install a newer version, a lot of these other packages might break. The recommended way of installing git on macOS is via Apples git variant by installing Xcode which also requires root privileges btw.
- cormacrelf 9y ago
  If you grab git from Homebrew, it doesn't overwrite the Xcode one, so if you depend on that you're good. How hard could this possibly be for apt-get and the like?
  - evacchi 9y ago
    to be fair, there is LinuxBrew[1]; also, apparently you can use nix to the same effect. I do believe that Linux-based desktop OSs should separate base system from user software, kind of like *BSDs have been doing; actually, I'd really distros to embrace something like homebrew, where packages are installed per-user [1] http://linuxbrew.sh/ http://linuxbrew.sh/
- ldev 9y ago
  > If you want the latest and greatest of everything, you could use Arch Linux. You're kidding me, right? https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/log/trunk?h=packages/nodejs https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/log/trunk?h... There's sometimes weeks before node is updated. Updating PostgreSQL from 9.6.1 to 9.6.2 took 4 months. And right now .net core build is failing on my archlinux test server. --- If you want latest - use macOS with brew
  - hd4 9y ago
    If you need the latest versions so badly, why don't you just compile from source instead of waiting 4 months?
    - ldev 9y ago
      thanks package manager, you're useless
jamespo 9y ago
You know who wrote git, right?
- ldev 9y ago
  Same guy who complained about entering root password to set up printer? Yeah. Linux fans are fast to go "lol m$ UAC", but their shitty UX with entering root password every 10 minutes is "securiteh!!!". :))
  - quickben 9y ago
    Offtopic but with love: anger and disregard for grammar is really an unnecessary penalty one chooses in his life.
    - ldev 9y ago
      I'm so sorry my self "taught" grammar is so bad, I must invest money in proper foreign language schooling just so I could appease some random dipshit on hackernews.
      - sctb 9y ago
        Please stop posting like this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by ldev 9y ago

hd4 9y ago

Your criticisms of Linux are basically that there is a proper security/stability process in place.

ldev 9y ago
0.2% desktop users agree. Continue live in your strange bubble, just stop mentioning linux to normal folk.
- hd4 9y ago
  I didn't realise normal folk came to HN, but your advice is noted.
  - ldev 9y ago
    I've found HN through /r/programmingcirclejerk and thought no one would be so out of touch with reality, not even Steve Jobs, but this is golden. hail linux

chrizel 9y ago

If you want the latest and greatest of everything, you could use Arch Linux. Git today in many ways could be seen as fundamental component of many tools. Many packaging and build tools use it to fetch data. (like homebrew, plugin systems for many text editors etc.) Also, the git version of your distribution IS relevant because other packages depend on it. For example, on my Ubuntu system the git package is a dependency of over 170 other packages. If you could install a newer version, a lot of these other packages might break. The recommended way of installing git on macOS is via Apples git variant by installing Xcode which also requires root privileges btw.

cormacrelf 9y ago
If you grab git from Homebrew, it doesn't overwrite the Xcode one, so if you depend on that you're good. How hard could this possibly be for apt-get and the like?
- evacchi 9y ago
  to be fair, there is LinuxBrew[1]; also, apparently you can use nix to the same effect. I do believe that Linux-based desktop OSs should separate base system from user software, kind of like *BSDs have been doing; actually, I'd really distros to embrace something like homebrew, where packages are installed per-user [1] http://linuxbrew.sh/ http://linuxbrew.sh/
ldev 9y ago
> If you want the latest and greatest of everything, you could use Arch Linux. You're kidding me, right? https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/log/trunk?h=packages/nodejs https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/log/trunk?h... There's sometimes weeks before node is updated. Updating PostgreSQL from 9.6.1 to 9.6.2 took 4 months. And right now .net core build is failing on my archlinux test server. --- If you want latest - use macOS with brew
- hd4 9y ago
  If you need the latest versions so badly, why don't you just compile from source instead of waiting 4 months?
  - ldev 9y ago
    thanks package manager, you're useless

jamespo 9y ago

You know who wrote git, right?

ldev 9y ago
Same guy who complained about entering root password to set up printer? Yeah. Linux fans are fast to go "lol m$ UAC", but their shitty UX with entering root password every 10 minutes is "securiteh!!!". :))
- quickben 9y ago
  Offtopic but with love: anger and disregard for grammar is really an unnecessary penalty one chooses in his life.
  - ldev 9y ago
    I'm so sorry my self "taught" grammar is so bad, I must invest money in proper foreign language schooling just so I could appease some random dipshit on hackernews.
    - sctb 9y ago
      Please stop posting like this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html