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> You are not going to get fined just for calculating the hypotenuse of a triangle in public If the argument is "he said he was an 'engineer' and he isn't lice
by echion 9y ago
> You are not going to get fined just for calculating the hypotenuse of a triangle in public
If the argument is "he said he was an 'engineer' and he isn't licensed", that's fine. And the Board's Final Report contains a lot of language establishing that, and for that he can be fined.
But the Board's Report goes out of its way to say that ORS 672.005(c) and ORS 672.002 define "practicing engineering" as quite close to just "calculating the hypotenuse of a triangle in public", and that just practicing engineering in this manner without registration is not allowed. Check Section 14 of the Final Report. It makes no reference to "purporting to be an engineer": it's "by [critiquing an engineering formula] and submitting the critique [...] to members of the public" [...he...] thereby engaged in the practice of engineering [...] specifically, traffic engineering [...and thus] violated ORS 672.020(1), 672.045(1) and OAR 820-010-0730(3)(c)".
- anigbrowl 9y agoWhy do you keep ignoring the fact that he had already repeatedly and knowingly made false claims of being an engineer despite having agreed not to do so? Doing engineer-y things is not the problem, it's doing them in the context of falsely presenting oneself as an engineer that's the problem.
- setr 9y agoIf you go around claiming to be a doctor, but don't do anything related to being a doctor and in no way operate as a doctor, then presumably this isn't a crime to be fined. If you tell people you are not a doctor, and you do doctor things, then there's no misunderstanding, and nothing to fine But if you tell people you are a doctor (or let people think you are), when you are not, and you do doctory things, then there's trouble. It seems reasonable to me that it requires both the misunderstanding and the potential to create public harm for it to be a crime/fine-able.
- DanBC 9y agoDon't use metaphor, because they're broken. In your metaphor "doctor" is a protected term in many jurisdictions, so merely claiming to be a medical doctor is a crime. And practising medicine without a licence is similarly illegal, even if you make it clear that you're not a doctor.
- vkou 9y agoPlenty of 'alternative medicine' woo is practiced, without anyone involved claiming to be doctors. For the most part, nobody goes to jail.