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It's high time for mods to launch ubernews, they are in the spotlight every single day. 71 submissions last week [0]. 0: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=uber&sor

It's high time for mods to launch ubernews, they are in the spotlight every single day. 71 submissions last week [0]. 0: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=uber&sort=byDate&dateRange=pastWeek&type=story&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=uber&sort=byDate&dateRange=pas...

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ethbro 9y ago
Were you on Slashdot when SCO was ongoing? If not, this is what a corporate titan proxy war looks like in the news cycle. And it's objectively defensible. The outcome of this lawsuit will shape what an incredibly important future technology looks like and who controls it.
- stupidhn 9y ago
  Yeah, I get that reading most of the stories feels like rehashed gossip rags. But it's the meta that's cool to me; this is a real life battle of technology behemoths with hefty repercussions, and the media is part of the game. It's cool to watch it play out.
- macrael 9y ago
  SCO?
  - rory096 9y ago
    You're in for a treat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies
    - davidw 9y ago
      I remember showing up to their local meeting with some other Linux guys in the area and politely calling bullshit on their lawsuit. It was kind of fun, although I'm not normally one to court controversy.
  - openmosix 9y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - ethbro 9y ago
    v IBM. Aka, the case through which pj taught most of the tech community about law. http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20031016162215566 http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2003101616...
    - rjsw 9y ago
      IBM gave a good lesson too, their response was a work of art.
- CobrastanJorji 9y ago
  Man, I miss Groklaw. I would love to have a Groklaw-equivalent following this trial. I wonder if folks could, like, crowdsource a salary for PJ to cover a new trial?
  - ethbro 9y ago
    I'd stopped reading by then, but apparently she stopped posting in 2013 after Lavabit. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 "[...] So. There we are. The foundation of Groklaw is over. I can't do Groklaw without your input. I was never exaggerating about that when we won awards. It really was a collaborative effort, and there is now no private way, evidently, to collaborate. I'm really sorry that it's so. I loved doing Groklaw, and I believe we really made a significant contribution. But even that turns out to be less than we thought, or less than I hoped for, anyway. My hope was always to show you that there is beauty and safety in the rule of law, that civilization actually depends on it. How quaint. [...] My personal decision is to get off of the Internet to the degree it's possible. I'm just an ordinary person. But I really know, after all my research and some serious thinking things through, that I can't stay online personally without losing my humanness, now that I know that ensuring privacy online is impossible. I find myself unable to write. I've always been a private person. That's why I never wanted to be a celebrity and why I fought hard to maintain both my privacy and yours." And I can't imagine that Snowden or the other NSA leaks have made her feel safer about being a public figure. It seems quaint now, reading her expectations and worries, but it's honestly infuriating that in less than a decade we've gone from an expectation of net privacy to haggard indifference at government's best efforts to engineer electronic panopticon.
    - jacquesm 9y ago
      > It seems quaint now, reading her expectations and worries, but it's honestly infuriating that in less than a decade we've gone from an expectation of net privacy to haggard indifference at government's best efforts to engineer electronic panopticon. Lots of cheerleaders for that right here. It's a sad state of affairs, to put it mildly.
- jarsin 9y ago
  I wasted so many working hours over SCO. Tons of arguments at work and reading slashdot. Oh man those were the days. :) I am no where near as passionate about uber vs google probably because google vs uber is not as great as microsoft vs linux and the survival of opensource.
draw_down 9y ago
There is a reason why. Are you also vexed every time a story has "Apple" in the title?
surement 9y ago
Money Stuff [0] has had an ongoing section recently called "People are worried about Uber." [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/view/topics/money-stuff https://www.bloomberg.com/view/topics/money-stuff

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ethbro 9y ago

Were you on Slashdot when SCO was ongoing? If not, this is what a corporate titan proxy war looks like in the news cycle. And it's objectively defensible. The outcome of this lawsuit will shape what an incredibly important future technology looks like and who controls it.

stupidhn 9y ago
Yeah, I get that reading most of the stories feels like rehashed gossip rags. But it's the meta that's cool to me; this is a real life battle of technology behemoths with hefty repercussions, and the media is part of the game. It's cool to watch it play out.
macrael 9y ago
SCO?
- rory096 9y ago
  You're in for a treat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies
  - davidw 9y ago
    I remember showing up to their local meeting with some other Linux guys in the area and politely calling bullshit on their lawsuit. It was kind of fun, although I'm not normally one to court controversy.
- openmosix 9y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- ethbro 9y ago
  v IBM. Aka, the case through which pj taught most of the tech community about law. http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20031016162215566 http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2003101616...
  - rjsw 9y ago
    IBM gave a good lesson too, their response was a work of art.
CobrastanJorji 9y ago
Man, I miss Groklaw. I would love to have a Groklaw-equivalent following this trial. I wonder if folks could, like, crowdsource a salary for PJ to cover a new trial?
- ethbro 9y ago
  I'd stopped reading by then, but apparently she stopped posting in 2013 after Lavabit. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 "[...] So. There we are. The foundation of Groklaw is over. I can't do Groklaw without your input. I was never exaggerating about that when we won awards. It really was a collaborative effort, and there is now no private way, evidently, to collaborate. I'm really sorry that it's so. I loved doing Groklaw, and I believe we really made a significant contribution. But even that turns out to be less than we thought, or less than I hoped for, anyway. My hope was always to show you that there is beauty and safety in the rule of law, that civilization actually depends on it. How quaint. [...] My personal decision is to get off of the Internet to the degree it's possible. I'm just an ordinary person. But I really know, after all my research and some serious thinking things through, that I can't stay online personally without losing my humanness, now that I know that ensuring privacy online is impossible. I find myself unable to write. I've always been a private person. That's why I never wanted to be a celebrity and why I fought hard to maintain both my privacy and yours." And I can't imagine that Snowden or the other NSA leaks have made her feel safer about being a public figure. It seems quaint now, reading her expectations and worries, but it's honestly infuriating that in less than a decade we've gone from an expectation of net privacy to haggard indifference at government's best efforts to engineer electronic panopticon.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    > It seems quaint now, reading her expectations and worries, but it's honestly infuriating that in less than a decade we've gone from an expectation of net privacy to haggard indifference at government's best efforts to engineer electronic panopticon. Lots of cheerleaders for that right here. It's a sad state of affairs, to put it mildly.
jarsin 9y ago
I wasted so many working hours over SCO. Tons of arguments at work and reading slashdot. Oh man those were the days. :) I am no where near as passionate about uber vs google probably because google vs uber is not as great as microsoft vs linux and the survival of opensource.

draw_down 9y ago

There is a reason why. Are you also vexed every time a story has "Apple" in the title?

surement 9y ago

Money Stuff [0] has had an ongoing section recently called "People are worried about Uber." [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/view/topics/money-stuff https://www.bloomberg.com/view/topics/money-stuff